Massive Progression Overhaul - Destroy Bots

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Re: Massive Progression Overhaul - Destroy Bots

Postby Teleskop » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:06 pm

That would turn haven into crappy browser based mmo where you log in once a day to click some stuff

What about those that want to play it more than hour a day :oops:
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Re: Massive Progression Overhaul - Destroy Bots

Postby DDDsDD999 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:09 pm

Oh boy, this thread.
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Re: Massive Progression Overhaul - Destroy Bots

Postby jordancoles » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:11 pm

Characters should age and when a character reaches 60 in any stat they will begin to age quicker and after 50 irl days it should die imo

Stupid try-hards wrecking it for everyone otherwise you know?
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Re: Massive Progression Overhaul - Destroy Bots

Postby shubla » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:11 pm

Why cant someone just lock the thread then

edit: nevermind, more postcount is always good
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Re: Massive Progression Overhaul - Destroy Bots

Postby jordancoles » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:12 pm

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Re: Massive Progression Overhaul - Destroy Bots

Postby InvaderDoom » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:17 pm

There's just too much bad to analyze in this post.

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Re: Massive Progression Overhaul - Destroy Bots

Postby InvaderDoom » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:26 pm

LadyGoo wrote:Don't cut the hand, cure the issue. There are so many things that could be done:
Focus on the actions that could be done by going outside, hunting and etc. Quests and hunting (now important due to the white clay implementation + lp boost) are the best example of it. Automatization of the vanilla client - too. narrow down the difference between people who bot and not by implementing autoharvest/replant with some auto drinkers. Amber already has such extensions.


This. So much this.

Seriously the majority of people who "bot"(me included) is simply because if I didn't have some features Automated. I'd blow through a $100 mouse every three months.

Sorry, but not only paying for a game, but also paying for hardware, because at times it feels like Cookie Clicker isn't worth it. There are some things that should be blatantly automated. Selecting an area to mine, Planting Crops, leveling land, etc.

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Edit: Okay, the price has come down to $79.99, but still!
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Re: Massive Progression Overhaul - Destroy Bots

Postby ATHF » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:29 pm

You cant intro logic.
It wont help fight botters because i dead sure they have finances to pay prime acc.
Therefore users without lots of incomes wont be able to actualy play and enjoy game.
In fact this wont help to reduce boting , only increase gap between botters and usual users.
Botting could possibly be reduced by blocking more than two connection to server from same ip ( but this wont work for 100% because there things like proxy or vpn so its not even idea or solution)

You cant prevent boting by means of game balance or even mechanics.
Because neither solution will work. You just cant do it without harm to players.
If you dont like botters , go get some bots , farm kickass character and eradicate all of them in entire hearthlands.
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Re: Massive Progression Overhaul - Destroy Bots

Postby sMartins » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:36 pm

The intention is good, but not his solution....we need a better game design, and it's not easy... otherwise it wouldn't be a job.
Only Devs can work to improve this...the game concept is awesome and the game in general is very good but right now it's not really a proper game...they need to finalize it, in my mind, if they care to do it...perhaps they want to keep it as it is, to experiment, to have fun and as a showcase of their job.
I think to finalize this game it needs to be way much harder....where you DIE, where your char is a temporary adventure in this world with more than less ending with your death...encouraging you to start again and try better.
Right now the game become easier and easier more you progress....should be exactly the opposite, aging, disease, harsh enviroment...etc...it should be easier for new players, using some buff, etc... and becoming always harder with your progress.
This is what i think, clearly could be totally wrong...but i think without an "end" there is not a true adventure, a true gameplay...i hope you can understand what i mean...Cheers
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Re: Massive Progression Overhaul - Destroy Bots

Postby shubla » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:47 pm

sMartins wrote:The intention is good, but not his solution....we need a better game design, and it's not easy... otherwise it wouldn't be a job.
Only Devs can work to improve this...the game concept is awesome and the game in general is very good but right now it's not really a proper game...they need to finalize it, in my mind, if they care to do it...perhaps they want to keep it as it is, to experiment, to have fun and as a showcase of their job.
I think to finalize this game it needs to be way much harder....where you DIE, where your char is a temporary adventure in this world with more than less ending with your death...encouraging you to start again and try better.
Right now the game become easier and easier more you progress....should be exactly the opposite, aging, disease, harsh enviroment...etc...it should be easier for new players, using some buff, etc... and becoming always harder with your progress.
This is what i think, clearly could be totally wrong...but i think without an "end" there is not a true adventure, a true gameplay...i hope you can understand what i mean...Cheers

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