Branding containers/chests

[LadyGoo]

If you do not want people to put things like that on your land, simply, wall off your land and make sure the gates are closed. Anyways, what prevents them to put containers on your claim even without branding? Why would Jorb need to make an option to turn it off and on? Do you mean that you do not want people to put anything on your land in general? Because any other container with a lock is not different to a branded container. So yeah, erm... weird logic.
The host can rob anyone at any time on his/her claim. Frankly, that has never been an issue for the market that is being used by the majority of the trader population in hafen. So branding won't just benefit only us, but anyone else using the market. Actually, we do not need to brand our containers, since it is our own claim.

Moreover, the market is an example of a social project. It lets to see the flaws in the current mechanics and help to improve the game = any other social projects could benefit from the experience gained from the Sevillian setup.

[shubla]

but what if someone steals your shit they brand you dont want to!
not fair!

[jackjoke]

-1. Too complicated just to benefit a single faction in the game specifically baring accidents like the thing Granger posted.


What if I don't want people to put things like that on my land? Then Jorb has to make some kind of interface, menu, option, ect. to turn it on and off. Moreover wouldn't this just make it easier for the host to rob them anyways? No thanks.

As I said--

Nice original idea.
+1 this would be really nice.

Just please make it so you cant brand containers/chest on other claims, only in the wilds or your own.

The trader factions would value from this.
if raiders brought their own boxes. so be it- but i dout it.
and since the brand would have your name attached to it. i don't see why J&L would not put a name on the menu inside the box.

Ladygoo & AD & brodgar & the faction I belong to. have long been trying to refine trading.
Just cuz ladygoo now has the most relevant of trader towns & has a horrid ass history of murder and rape.
does not mean we start back paddling on trader updates.

[Burinn]

The trader factions would value from this.
if raiders brought their own boxes. so be it- but i dout it.
and since the brand would have your name attached to it. i don't see why J&L would not put a name on the menu inside the box.

Ladygoo & AD & brodgar & the faction I belong to. have long been trying to refine trading.
Just cuz ladygoo now has the most relevant of trader towns & has a horrid ass history of murder and rape.
does not mean we start back paddling on trader updates.

I for one am totally fine with traders getting an update at the expense of everyone else getting inundated with abuse from it.

You doubt people in H&H, likely Ladygoo herself, would abuse something like this the second they found out they good do it? Yeah. Right.

[jackjoke]

I for one am totally fine with traders getting an update at the expense of everyone else getting inundated with abuse from it.

You doubt people in H&H, likely Ladygoo herself, would abuse something like this the second they found out they good do it? Yeah. Right.

you have no pointed out how to abuse it.
the only biggest abuse that can be done would be gifting someone the box and then somehow sneaking back to w/e the box is to steal stuff from it. in this case. a name would need to be added o the box or the ability to reband the box.

[Burinn]

I for one am totally fine with traders getting an update at the expense of everyone else getting inundated with abuse from it.

You doubt people in H&H, likely Ladygoo herself, would abuse something like this the second they found out they good do it? Yeah. Right.

you have no pointed out how to abuse it.
the only biggest abuse that can be done would be gifting someone the box and then somehow sneaking back to w/e the box is to steal stuff from it. in this case. a name would need to be added o the box or the ability to reband the box.

How would I go about explaining how someone could exploit something that is both a general suggestion and not in the game yet more than I, or Ysh, have. "Haha well no real objections!" isn't an argument.

[Ysh]

How would I go about explaining how someone could exploit something that is both a general suggestion and not in the game yet more than I, or Ysh, have. "Haha well no real objections!" isn't an argument.

I think if your opponent have no argument and you point this out, it is fine argument. Obvious you can say ''I must wait until implementation to see if there is exploit, what if there is bug in it!'' But this is true for any changing. On paper I think I can not see way for this to be abuse more than current mechanic in game. If you can think of one then you can point it out.

[Burinn]

How would I go about explaining how someone could exploit something that is both a general suggestion and not in the game yet more than I, or Ysh, have. "Haha well no real objections!" isn't an argument.

I think if your opponent have no argument and you point this out, it is fine argument. Obvious you can say ''I must wait until implementation to see if there is exploit, what if there is bug in it!'' But this is true for any changing. On paper I think I can not see way for this to be abuse more than current mechanic in game. If you can think of one then you can point it out.

It's an entirely valid argument when no suggestion as to how to avoid abuse is made. If people can run up and box in a noob or put down boxes in claims where they aren't wanted, it's an entirely valid argument. It's like you guys didn't read my psots or something and are now accusing me of not having an argument or position.

[Beezer12Washingbeard]

"Haha well no real objections!" isn't an argument.

Neither is "It could be abused! Somehow."

edit: Just like at present, anyone could still lift the chest, so nobody would be boxed in. The difference is, if you branded it as yours while on your own claim/in the wilderness, you'd be able to lift it and then take it back home with you. I don't think you understand the suggestions being made here.

editedit: Ladygoo and jack are explaining this better than I can.

[jackjoke]

How would I go about explaining how someone could exploit something that is both a general suggestion and not in the game yet more than I, or Ysh, have. "Haha well no real objections!" isn't an argument.

Cuz there's noting to exploit.

Cant brand items unless its on your own (set finished drying) claim.
take item to other claim, you can still use item regardless of permissions.
give item a visual update to show its branded.
items can be re branded but only on your own (set finished drying) claim.
give branded item a name when you open the chest. (you've opened {names} chest)

Each thing i listed here is the only exploits.
If you are able to brand anyone chest. you'd be able to steal chest and all the items easily. so i put the fix.
if you are able to build a claim on someone elses town claim then brand. that would be an exploit. so make it so only finished claims can have branding powers.
make it have a visual update- so that people cant just brand a item then give it to someone.
give its so that if someone rebands a chest the replaces yours. you'll know.

It's an entirely valid argument when no suggestion as to how to avoid abuse is made. If people can run up and box in a noob or put down boxes in claims where they aren't wanted, it's an entirely valid argument. It's like you guys didn't read my psots or something and are now accusing me of not having an argument or position.

you can lift chest! if someone runs up to you and blocks you in with chest just lift it. like wtf.
if someone runs up to you and builds a strongbox....thats not even part of this issue. your now stuck in a fking strongbox box