New nidbane idea

[shubla]

leeches

[maze]

Nidbanes were ment to get revenge on killers.
And Raiders have the biggest problem with Nidbanes.

But where does the problem lay?
Killers killing killers.
My take
Murder should only be the one that gets nidbanes.
If you have murdered someone or taken part in a act of murder. You can no longer send nidbanes.

Nidbanes should be a peaceful players way to getting revenge but not an act of murder.

You should be allowed to KO someone and send them back to their fire. Giving em a debuff bed ridden that would stop the player from pvp, fighting for 2-5 hours . Or force em to log out for a few hours.

[Kaios]

If you have murdered someone or taken part in a act of murder. You can no longer send nidbanes.

Half the issue with the mechanics they add are that they are too convoluted. What exactly entails someone having taken part in a murder anyways? They aggrod the person that died so now they've "taken part?" And the more steps involved in a process like that, the more cheesy ways to avoid leaving any murder scent at all will be available.

Simple is always better in this game idk why it's so hard for the devs/players to realize that. Complicated things with weird mechanics always lead to issues and abuses around them like visitor and redhanded and adding strange shit like sending a knocked out guy back to his hearthfire with a debuff that essentially makes the character unplayable for no reason does not make sense to me.

Instead, why not something like theft, vandal and battery nidbanes reduce stats instead of HP when they hit you and only the murder scent is actually capable of murdering the player? Giving players false hope that they are going to get a skull because that's the only outcome available is lame.

[maze]

I can't quote on my phone. So...
@Kaios
Ideally its to stop the current and old abuse of having an alt run around and murder everyone but not the mains.

Leeches are an easy fix of just now allowing people of place em on others.


Nidbanes prevent mass murder.
But they should be ideally for peaceful not raiders

[Teleskop]

nidbanes were added to make small guys have a chance to take ravenge on bigger guys

and its just bigger guys abusing em vs other bigger guys

[MadNomad]

instead of fighting, ops idea seems better than what we have now btw

If you have murdered someone or taken part in a act of murder. You can no longer send nidbanes.

also this would reduce overuse of this shit

[spawningmink]

Personally the only 2 types of people last world that sent nidbanes was DIS and random noobs who found my scents. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think odditown sent nidbanes after anyone, along with AD they would just track the scent. You could also argue that nidbanes are ment for revenge and maybe the only player who can send a nidbane should be the ancestor of the char who was killed, this would stop some random shitter like maze walking along and seeing my scents from where we had a fight and picking them up to kill me

[MadNomad]

that would be almost perfect

[jordancoles]

IMO if the total LP of the killed ancestor was factored into the strength of the nidbane (instead of fetter q) and if only the wronged player's inherit was able to send a nidbane it would be a more balanced mechanic

[maze]

@Frost
I've never sent a nidbane.
Cuz I don't be beleave others other then the owner should send em.
And no one has ever committed a crime agist me other then bobdole and JC. Who I both respect (even if jc is an asshat at times.)

Plus frost I like you. I'd not want you dead. You're my frav furry