Make MC great again!

[NOOBY93]

everyone would go full melee

[APXEOLOG]

everyone would go full melee

I think armor penetration for UA attacks should be increased in that case. I also think grievous damage that should be the UA feature is currently useless and can be reworked

[Potjeh]

UA and MC would feel exactly the same then, though. With my suggestion UA would be better for openings and MC would be better for damage, so there's a meaningful choice in what you focus on. Plus, this is a lot less work to implement than rebalancing UA and MC from the ground up.

[CTheRain]

Is there any reason melee isn't more similar to how archery is? Like free aim?

[azrid]

Just remove MC like archery was.

[Onep]

Seems silly to pidgeon hole people into mono skill builds. Just use Knock its Teeth Out if you're so desperate for red.

[Potjeh]

The current situation is mono-skill (UA) builds all the way, though

[NOOBY93]

It's always going to be UA or melee (the one that is currently the best one, that's the one people will use).

You can't make both equally viable at the same time, unless you make hybrid builds the only way to go (level both at the same time, bad to have either at a very low value), and at that point why not just remove them and add one called "Combat"

[Potjeh]

The thing with hybrids is that there's no right ratio that fits every style, so there's a degree of decision making involved. In group fights especially specializing in just one could be a good choice.

As it is, they can remove MC and rename UA to "combat".

[NOOBY93]

The thing with hybrids is that there's no right ratio that fits every style, so there's a degree of decision making involved. In group fights especially specializing in just one could be a good choice.

As it is, they can remove MC and rename UA to "combat".

Group fights don't work that way, so you can't have people specializing in certain things then coordinate accordingly. Most fighters will always use the optimal way to level your character which is why I don't see much sense in there being both UA and melee. One will always be better, and while one could argue "but some people don't want to min-max", sure, you can go to fights with 10 unarmed combat and 500 sewing as well, but you don't balance combat around people who don't play optimally. Right now UA is the best, leveling Melee is pointless. If melee weapon damage was tied to the Melee Combat skill, then leveling it would be mandatory, alongside with unarmed combat (at which point, remove both and add Combat). If melee was given openings AND the damage thing, then everyone would go full melee. If melee was only given more opening moves, people would, again, use what opens the best (and has best stances etc.)