Steel and Firebrands - because 'Fuck You'

[viznew]

Silk
Maybe give the option to infect mulberry trees with worms for easy (without having to ferry the leafs around) generation of silk. Let hatching moths work like bats but only move between nearby mulberry trees so they could cycle silk on a group of mulberries on their own (kept in check population wise by the amount of leafs growing). Quantity will be lower as some fly away (or whatever lore you come up with) and quality also being reduced (for bullshit reason of the day like it rained on the silk, whatever works for you). This will be the beginners way to make silk of shitty quality, which should stay being shitty even with hq moths and trees.

ok my veiw on silk kinda changed, i love this one, and it should always produce fairly shitty silk, althou it does lowwer general silk value

[2d0x]

...There are other people who like it...

Really?! Do you like getting silk or keep the fire in a crucible? I will specify: "like" or "I agree to tolerate"?

[Granger]

Silk
Maybe give the option to infect mulberry trees with worms for easy (without having to ferry the leafs around) generation of silk. Let hatching moths work like bats but only move between nearby mulberry trees so they could cycle silk on a group of mulberries on their own (kept in check population wise by the amount of leafs growing). Quantity will be lower as some fly away (or whatever lore you come up with) and quality also being reduced (for bullshit reason of the day like it rained on the silk, whatever works for you). This will be the beginners way to make silk of shitty quality, which should stay being shitty even with hq moths and trees.

ok my veiw on silk kinda changed, i love this one, and it should always produce fairly shitty silk, althou it does lowwer general silk value

While it might lower the general value of low quality silk, the only real application for it currently is merc robes (for the rest I presume you want quality). This could be offset by introducing more sinks for silk into the game (no need to make it the new bone glue, but...).

[jorb]

qq Jorb... I'm giving you monies, now I'm telling why Im going to stop. Do with it what you will...

No, you're making passive-aggressive commentary because you are frustrated with the game. Which is fine, and an honest form of feedback, but also not the most constructive spirit in which to begin a conversation?

It's all good.

Get rid of failed firebrands, let steel retain its completion as every other 'baked' product does. Problem solved.

Thanks for the suggestions!

[jorb]

the silk cycle can run on it's own...a game that is able to modify the RL schedule of the players... it's an inherently evil meachnic to exploit.

http://progressquest.com/

[Granger]

the silk cycle can run on it's own...a game that is able to modify the RL schedule of the players... it's an inherently evil meachnic to exploit.

http://progressquest.com/

Especially as it won't be that effective (the way I suggested it) than to do the classical cupboard dance: Where exactly is your problem with moths->eggs->worms->cocoon->rinse&repeat being able to run as long as you fill leafs? I'm sure that you will come up with some fascinating failure modes (worms escaping eating other stuff, whatnot) to make it interesting

PPS: could you live with a setup where at least the herbalist table and the feeding is combined?

PS: with 'inherently evil mechanic' I refered to the use of shock nets (implemented as steel going out) in your Operant Conditioning Chanmber.

[Sevenless]

I'd prefer to just see the silking liftable combo that fixes the timing. No need for cupboard dance, it wasn't fun for anyone that way. Hardcores can just have a billion of them as they do.

[iamahh]

firebrand is easy if you master the art of alt+tab

[ChildhoodObesity]

Also please get rid of the currently available 'fuck yourself' opportunity by disabling taking out the wrought with shift-click/empty wheelbarrow.

yea this SUCKS nice firebrand ideas granger!! +1

also you have 12 whole hours after full fueling to fill it again and youve only gotta do it like 4x xd its not that bad!!!

[Aceb]

Two absolutely useless mechanics that only cause frustration and add absolutely nothing to the game.

I'm home 10 minutes late from work so now I have to start my steel over again. Or maybe I'll just stop playing like the other 800 people that used to play but don't anymore.

It is about how to be right and wrong and the same time.

I've never had a problem with setting up silk production, despite being busy irl. Instead of YOLO stuff whenever You can, just plan it, how and when. In same case like You here, I often left myself a space of 1hour (if not more.)

Steel is A LOT EASIER MAINTAIN THEN SILK. Especially that You can refill it often enough, not like with Silk.





Best solution?
Make secondary structures for steel production, that takes 2x longer. Can't / Don't want to plan / afford, then just pay with time.
2x longer time would give You enough time to do shit in your own speed.


Give people a choice.
and gtfo from silk. It is as good as it is. I often find people complaining about it because they make it too big to maintain in X time for them.
I never had a problem and if life happened, it happened. Sometimes it does happen.