Allow us to cut up intestines into entrails

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Re: Allow us to cut up intestines into entrails

Postby Cajoes » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:01 am

Potjeh wrote:It doesn't make sense to use just any random organ for haruspex.

Yeah, reading the innards of animals is a serious and precise science!
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Re: Allow us to cut up intestines into entrails

Postby Massa » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:01 am

juniormayrinck wrote:This makes no goddam sense. Sure, you can make some pieces of cartilage, meat and small intestine into a casing, but, how the fuck does you make a liver out of intestines?

"Oh, we're out of entrails? not that bad, let me just cut up some intestines then make more liver and onions"

"here let me use this lung for a nice serving of liver and onions"

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Re: Allow us to cut up intestines into entrails

Postby MagicManICT » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:52 pm

Massa makes a good point there. Game devs do the best they can to abstract out some of the specifics needed to simplify game development. Sometimes the balance doesn't quite come out right.

MinionTwo wrote:but i believe that the 'fix' to this issue is getting a little over complicated. instead of creating a new item, why not just request that the recipes be changed to allow intestines as well as entrails?

Pretty sure that the "stitched casing" was added in to fix the "not enough intestines" more people seemed to be having at the time it was introduced.
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Re: Allow us to cut up intestines into entrails

Postby Myrgard » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:39 pm

MagicManICT wrote:Pretty sure that the "stitched casing" was added in to fix the "not enough intestines" more people seemed to be having at the time it was introduced.


Well I guess it depends on whether someone likes to eat sausages or not

MagicManICT wrote:Massa makes a good point there. Game devs do the best they can to abstract out some of the specifics needed to simplify game development. Sometimes the balance doesn't quite come out right.


hmm when you think about it - a wild rabbit usually weighs no more than 2 kg tops, and that gives us about 1 kg actual meat, a mammoth on average would weigh about 5 tons, again that's about 2500 kg of meat minimum. If we take the rabbit as the baseline than a single mammoth should give us not 25 pieces of meat but 2500 pieces. :)
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Re: Allow us to cut up intestines into entrails

Postby Onep » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:44 pm

Perhaps you should take into account the fep density on the meat as well. Because off top my head I'm pretty sure rabbit is shit and Mammoth is amazing.
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Re: Allow us to cut up intestines into entrails

Postby MinionTwo » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:40 pm

dont forget to take into account the quality difference.
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Re: Allow us to cut up intestines into entrails

Postby jorb » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:08 pm

I actually think of entrails as the more qualified resource of the two, as it, in my mind, implies essentially all the offal of the animal. Wouldn't make much sense to cut intestines up to liver, for example.
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Re: Allow us to cut up intestines into entrails

Postby juniormayrinck » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:28 am

Myrgard wrote:I'm thinking of recipes like - Grand Haruspex, Mirkwood Offering, Ouroboros, Untanned Rot. None of these require any specific part of a creatures anatomy (unlike liver and onions). They only need a certain amount of the assorted bits found inside an animals belly. For that reason cutting up intestines seems perfectly reasonable to me.


The entrails parts of the haruspex are supposed to be the liver and kidneys, the intestine bits are already covered by, guess what, the intestines ingredients. So, again, no, you can't cut up intestines into kidneys, it would make no goddam sense.

Same thing for the ouroboros, as i assume, takes specifically entrails AND intestines as the entrails are supposed to cover the symbolic filling of, again, kidneys, liver, the small intestine, lungs, stomach, maybe bits of the heart or something. So, yet again, it makes no goddam sense to cut up intestines to take upon the role of entrails, especially on symbolic roles like a haruspex or a ouroboros.

The mirkwood oferring is supposed to be a oferring of certain parts of a animal, and for a clear reason the large intestine isn't covered by this as the recipe is tagged to take entrails and only entrails.

Maybe the untanned rot as i got no idea what that's supposed to represent, but still, as it specially asks for intestines AND entrails it logically says that there's /something/ on the entrails that isn't possible to get from intestines. I imagine that it might be something to do with the small intestine bacteria or someshit, but, the rot makes no sense at all as far as i know, as i have never heard about any tanning solution made out of animal sources.
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Re: Allow us to cut up intestines into entrails

Postby juniormayrinck » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:31 am

Massa wrote:
juniormayrinck wrote:This makes no goddam sense. Sure, you can make some pieces of cartilage, meat and small intestine into a casing, but, how the fuck does you make a liver out of intestines?

"Oh, we're out of entrails? not that bad, let me just cut up some intestines then make more liver and onions"

"here let me use this lung for a nice serving of liver and onions"

IT'S A VIDEO GAME


Its abstract, now, you're comparing a abstract resource to literally making a absolute well defined resource into another one that is supposed to include livers, lungs, stomach and what not.

I'LL MAKE LUNGS OUT OF INTESTINES BECAUSE ITS A VIDEO GAME HUR
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