Remove LP reward from questing.

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Re: Remove LP reward from questing.

Postby jorb » Sun May 20, 2018 10:08 pm

waga wrote:LP from quests isn't the problem , charisma is.


I'm not sure LP from quests isn't any sort of problem, but I'm fairly sure charisma is the first problem, at least.
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Re: Remove LP reward from questing.

Postby jordancoles » Sun May 20, 2018 10:55 pm

jorb wrote:
waga wrote:LP from quests isn't the problem , charisma is.


I'm not sure LP from quests isn't any sort of problem, but I'm fairly sure charisma is the first problem, at least.

Have you tested it yourself yet?

You should give yourself 20k or so CHA and then cheat your way through a dozen quests just to see what you get. Curios become obsolete once you reach a certain level of CHA
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Re: Remove LP reward from questing.

Postby DDDsDD999 » Sun May 20, 2018 11:15 pm

jorb wrote:I'm not sure LP from quests isn't any sort of problem, but I'm fairly sure charisma is the first problem, at least.


jordancoles wrote:You should give yourself 20k or so CHA and then cheat your way through a dozen quests just to see what you get. Curios become obsolete once you reach a certain level of CHA


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Re: Remove LP reward from questing.

Postby jordancoles » Mon May 21, 2018 12:57 am

DDDsDD999 wrote:
jorb wrote:I'm not sure LP from quests isn't any sort of problem, but I'm fairly sure charisma is the first problem, at least.


jordancoles wrote:You should give yourself 20k or so CHA and then cheat your way through a dozen quests just to see what you get. Curios become obsolete once you reach a certain level of CHA


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What did he mean by this?

I'm asking if he's saying that based on the lp/exp gains of others, or if he has actually done a few quests himself with high CHA

It's one thing to hear about it but I feel like you would get a better understanding once you get a few 2million lp drops on your own character
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Re: Remove LP reward from questing.

Postby overtyped » Mon May 21, 2018 3:42 am

I never even knew charisma affected quests, perhaps put a cap on this one. 200 charisma max for the most bonus you can get out of it. In this way charisma won't be absolutely worthless.
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Re: Remove LP reward from questing.

Postby ctopolon3 » Mon May 21, 2018 4:00 am

INT should multiply LP from curios to catch up with CHA useless
atm u need 250INT to get 1,5kk LP per day* (no scale if u have 2000 INT)
3kk LP per Ageless Ice* (60+kLP\StudySlot)
atm u need 2000CHA to get 3kk LP per "hard" quest* ( not need to w8 for ice or farm trolls, grind resources, craft curios)
& with 2000CHA u can get 100kEXP
& u could transfer 6kEXP into 300-900kLP (all u need: autocliker(6 clicks every 30min) & alot Deep Sea Atavism or troll skulls or goodHartlings skulls)
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Re: Remove LP reward from questing.

Postby Granger » Mon May 21, 2018 6:19 am

ctopolon3 wrote:... should multiply ...

The multiplication we have in several mechanics is the cause for the broken, overinflated stat gains. There should be less of it, not more.
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Re: Remove LP reward from questing.

Postby MagicManICT » Mon May 21, 2018 6:51 am

jordancoles wrote:You should give yourself 20k or so CHA and then cheat your way through a dozen quests just to see what you get. Curios become obsolete once you reach a certain level of CHA


Not hard to do some math of the ~43x multiplier of 20k charisma... but then Jorb agrees with us that all stat values are wildly out of hand currently. Can't really base a request for a change to a mechanic that is broken due to a bug in another mechanic in the structure. Wait for the core to change and see what balance needs to be made then. Anything else is just duct tape and bubble gum.
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Re: Remove LP reward from questing.

Postby ctopolon3 » Mon May 21, 2018 8:40 am

Granger wrote:There should be less of it, not more.

more harder to grind stats = more distance between players
(pepper for example: normal players dont plant it because easiest to make x2 food than food+pepper, not normal players have fully botted 3x3 minimaps of pepper production)

casual players now can go to the mountain and dont get Rekt... nerds not need salt & ice any more (because CHARISMA)
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Re: Remove LP reward from questing.

Postby azrid » Mon May 21, 2018 9:50 am

On topic of int being useless. The game could have curios that are higher attention 100-250 and high material cost.

MagicManICT wrote:Can't really base a request for a change to a mechanic that is broken due to a bug in another mechanic in the structure.

This is true and its sad. The most important changes to the most imbalanced mechanics in game have to wait months or even over a year.
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