Remove negative farm rolls

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Re: Remove negative farm rolls

Postby DDDsDD999 » Thu May 31, 2018 11:11 pm

waga wrote:Bots that love the super broken patch at the moment , just saying :^)

I seriously don't understand how you think bots were improved from the previous patch at all.

Aceb wrote:Bring back separate roll for each crop like it was in legacy and bring back fun with looking what to plant back and what to screw.

I can't tell if this post in particular is satire, but people actually, genuinely believe this. As if manually looking through each and every seed's arbitrary number and comparing them was somehow fun or engaging gameplay. Porbably they just used the bots that sort crop quality, and think anyone who doesn't have those bots should get screwed.

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As for the op: Bots will still be used to maximize quality gains, as they were before. Why does this need to be so round-about: just make the quality gain flat every harvest, so bots don't get an advantage over regular players.
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Re: Remove negative farm rolls

Postby waga » Thu May 31, 2018 11:25 pm

let's make the abilities and attributes gains flat for everyone so no need for bot anymore.
Not sure if serious.
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Re: Remove negative farm rolls

Postby DDDsDD999 » Thu May 31, 2018 11:29 pm

waga wrote:let's make the abilities and attributes gains flat for everyone so no need for bot anymore.
Not sure if serious.

??? What's fucking interesting about sorting seed numbers?
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Re: Remove negative farm rolls

Postby waga » Thu May 31, 2018 11:41 pm

Not much.
still more interesting than harvesting every 3 days my field , where the only advantage you can make is not missing 3 days in a row.
Does it sounds like a perfect job for a bot ? because for me it does.
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Re: Remove negative farm rolls

Postby julian12it » Thu May 31, 2018 11:54 pm

waga wrote:Not much.
still more interesting than harvesting every 3 days my field , where the only advantage you can make is not missing 3 days in a row.
Does it sounds like a perfect job for a bot ? because for me it does.

You are confused and misinterpreted the patch notes. Bots are not affected much by this recent update, instead it allows players who do not have accessibility to bots to catch up. A bot will log in and farm the field as soon as it is ready. A player will not be on the computer 24/7 waiting for the field to be done. The patch allows players to miss some days and still be able to raise quality and catch up.
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Re: Remove negative farm rolls

Postby LostJustice » Thu May 31, 2018 11:56 pm

waga wrote:Not much.
still more interesting than harvesting every 3 days my field , where the only advantage you can make is not missing 3 days in a row.
Does it sounds like a perfect job for a bot ? because for me it does.


I already noted what you had said is wrong in the last thread you posted about this. It is clear you do not bot. This patch in fact levels the playing field for players and bots a lot more than you think. It does not change field size and statistically it does not matter the field is 1 grid or 3 grids. Before and after the patch they would have the same exact gains. Only difference now is that it possible for a human to do it without having to constantly farm to maintain variance.

So please understand more about what you are talking about and what you are requesting before assuming the patch is for the worse. This patch was clever and it does go in the direction to solving the issue the OP noted and the issue that you yourself noted of having to farm exactly every 6 hours.
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Re: Remove negative farm rolls

Postby waga » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:00 am

julian12it wrote:
waga wrote:Not much.
still more interesting than harvesting every 3 days my field , where the only advantage you can make is not missing 3 days in a row.
Does it sounds like a perfect job for a bot ? because for me it does.

You are confused and misinterpreted the patch notes. Bots are not affected much by this recent update, instead it allows players who do not have accessibility to bots to catch up. A bot will log in and farm the field as soon as it is ready. A player will not be on the computer 24/7 waiting for the field to be done. The patch allows players to miss some days and still be able to raise quality and catch up.


not sure why you're quoting this sentence where I don't talk about that at all but nevermind , I did indeed talk about this previously.
I did not misinterpret the patch notes no , I invite you to re-read it , you'll even see Jorb ackowledge the problem.
I've already explained why it's a problem multiples times , it's already abused , not super interested to explain it more than I already did.
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Re: Remove negative farm rolls

Postby waga » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:02 am

LostJustice wrote:
waga wrote:Not much.
still more interesting than harvesting every 3 days my field , where the only advantage you can make is not missing 3 days in a row.
Does it sounds like a perfect job for a bot ? because for me it does.


I already noted what you had said is wrong in the last thread you posted about this. It is clear you do not bot. This patch in fact levels the playing field for players and bots a lot more than you think. It does not change field size and statistically it does not matter the field is 1 grid or 3 grids. Before and after the patch they would have the same exact gains. Only difference now is that it possible for a human to do it without having to constantly farm to maintain variance.

So please understand more about what you are talking about and what you are requesting before assuming the patch is for the worse. This patch was clever and it does go in the direction to solving the issue the OP noted and the issue that you yourself noted of having to farm exactly every 6 hours.

cf patch note page 4 , jorb statement
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(and you've got all the explainations needed to understand why in the same page , I invite you to read it)
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Re: Remove negative farm rolls

Postby LostJustice » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:18 am

waga wrote:
LostJustice wrote:
waga wrote:Not much.
still more interesting than harvesting every 3 days my field , where the only advantage you can make is not missing 3 days in a row.
Does it sounds like a perfect job for a bot ? because for me it does.


I already noted what you had said is wrong in the last thread you posted about this. It is clear you do not bot. This patch in fact levels the playing field for players and bots a lot more than you think. It does not change field size and statistically it does not matter the field is 1 grid or 3 grids. Before and after the patch they would have the same exact gains. Only difference now is that it possible for a human to do it without having to constantly farm to maintain variance.

So please understand more about what you are talking about and what you are requesting before assuming the patch is for the worse. This patch was clever and it does go in the direction to solving the issue the OP noted and the issue that you yourself noted of having to farm exactly every 6 hours.

cf patch note page 4 , jorb statement
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(and you've got all the explainations needed to understand why in the same page , I invite you to read it)


Read the full forum thread and not just quoting Jorb randomly. I invite you to read it all. People who bot already have multiple fields and large fields. People who were keeping up in quality race by hand had the same thing. This changes nothing other than helping the people by growing by hand. Their discussion relates to people having to do this, not because of the patch.

Oh and please learn and interpret what the patch actually does rather than seeminglessly quoting Jorb out of context and applying it somewhere random. And yes, you are miss interpreting it, mostly because of out of context quoting.
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Re: Remove negative farm rolls

Postby waga » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:21 am

I'm not a very patient man I'm afraid.

jorb wrote:Will remake the mechanic so that you don't need extra fields to gain a bonus. That was not the intention.


If you still don't understand why , nevermind.
You don't understand why we need extra field , do you ? :D
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