Alts go live !

[loftar]

*cough* credo scaling *cough*

Not saying that the credo-reduction-from-dying-thing has worked out well and that I want to keep it, but I don't think planned suicide is "alting".

[ctopolon4]

I don't think planned suicide is "alting"

while u made planned suicide u need to have alts with skills (druid, vandal, miner) to not lose alot LP for that after each death.
best option = 3 ver\sub accounts (3 credo branches: miner, hunter, farmer) to not watch sandglass 50% of gameplay, have feasting bonus.

Scripts helps to manage 3 windows at same time.
craft/work, transmitting - scripted (2 acc), quests/combat - manually

alt are neccesary in atm gameMechanics (scouting, crimes, offline item keep, solo feasting, routine/botting)

[Lyrroth]

We don't need to actively encourage or institutionalize alt usage. If anything, we should be moving in the opposite direction. An MMORTS is an interesting kind of game and one I wouldn't necessarily mind making, but Haven isn't it.

The thing is, there are solo players and team players.

There were not much solo players who had only 1 character they played with (this is mostly for beginners only or for LARPERs)
Most of those just always have at least 2, up to 4 characters.

Team players tend to have "less" alts just because if You have a trusted party of some kind there's account sharing.
Shared account with cook, shared account with farmer (or two) and etc., leaving only warriors/hunters or more "personalized" characters left, unless they find someone dedicated.

The thing is it's reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally hard not to have alt. The game almost "wants" You to have at least 1 alt. Credo and stuff promotes having that one char if You suicide it over and over but still...


Unless You make with many aspects of the game looks like credo or make some kind of verification (money won't work tbh), You won't make game the less alt meta.

[Alitis]

what is the problem with people controling many chars and you want to avoid encouraging it ?

[loftar]

while u made planned suicide u need to have alts with skills (druid, vandal, miner) to not lose alot LP for that after each death.

That may or may not be so, but even if it is, it is a separate thing.

what is the problem with people controling many chars and you want to avoid encouraging it ?

That fact that it is the vision for this game to be an RPG rather than an RTS, quite simply.

[Enjoyment]

That fact that it is the vision for this game to be an RPG rather than an RTS, quite simply.

I do believe games like Baldur's Gate or Neverwinter Nights are RPG

[Lyrroth]

If You have a perma-death combined with crafting, where warriors and crafters are separate beings, it will always be a little "RTS" how You call it amongs top players or rather I should say, top factions.

[Alitis]

The categorization of things is there to help us separate and understand a continuum, when we talk about a specific thing there is no need to generalize.
So my question still stands.
If you want to prevent people from making many characters then why do you not restrict the accounts to one char ? and also forbid the creation of a second account with the same ip
Put some effort to be more of a pain in the a$$ to create and play alts

edit : you could also remove that thing to spawn a newb in your base

2nd edit: I am being a smartass I know, skip that... alts though is a big subject, may make people play safer and/or have a reason to keep playing when their main/ other alt gets killed by a titan for no reason, right ? It is more of the aspects of the game that lead to that, otherwise people would not choose to make alts in the first place.

[Aceb]

The categorization of things is there to help us separate and understand a continuum, when we speak about a specific thing there is no need to generalize.
So my question still stands.
If you guys want to prevent people from making many characters then why do you not restrict the accounts to one char ? and also forbid the creation of a second account with the same ip
Put some effort to be more of a pain in the a$$ to create and play alts

edit : you could also remove that thing to spawn a newb in your base

Yeah because people don't multi account already because they can turn on 2 clients with 2 characters instead of 1, because You can't have 2 characters log in from the same account at same time.

Also many people can change IP on the whim so yeah xD.

Basically saying "Put some effort to be more of a pain in the a$$ to create and play alts " is like saying "fudge new players and stuff, because older players abuse it!" because literally ANYTHING You do to accounts, hits the wrong people ;3

[sMartins]

When do you close the Client Loftar? That's the real question .... they will just cry for a while and then forget it, and after that the game will be better for everyone.