Remove hunger

[xdragonlord18]

remove hunger level and then add a system were the longer u go without eating the more effective food is for u also just add wounds for drinking 2 much and add over drinking so that u can die if u drink for 2 long in one sitting

[Ozzy123]

Make 200% feps the "normal" level and remove hunger level, satiations are enough now. It will be sooo much better than what we have now.

[MagicManICT]

Make 200% feps the "normal" level and remove hunger level, satiations are enough now. It will be sooo much better than what we have now.

uh....

No

that 3x bonus should have never been introduced in the first place. I don't care what kind of nerfs have been made to symbel, someone is going to figure out a way to grind 10k stats as long as this exists.

[banok]

I think we've all be railing against hunger due to the penalty to hard workers for a while now. I remember this issue when I was last playing, and that was a long time ago.

I see that more of an issue that the energy system is bad, doesn't add anything interesting to the game whilst interacting poorly with hunger system.

I'm not sure I would remove the more interesting hunger system, which is more developed, ie. symbel etc. just to make a shitty energy system make sense.

[MagicManICT]

I see that more of an issue that the energy system is bad, doesn't add anything interesting to the game whilst interacting poorly with hunger system.

I'm not sure I would remove the more interesting hunger system, which is more developed, ie. symbel etc. just to make a shitty energy system make sense.

It's a shitty system because people were making alts and starving them as labor slaves for building bases. Is there a better way to discourage this behavior than this? Sure. I think a couple proposals have come up, but they haven't been implemented for one reason or another.

Otherwise, if you remove that hunger bar and FEP bonuses, you have effectively the same system we've had since I started playing w3. The only addition would be satiation, which has it's merits because you can't just spam the same food over efficiently to level up.

[Ozzy123]

I don't care what kind of nerfs have been made to symbel

I have a strong feeling that you have no idea what you are talking about. I've seen your threads of you not being able to settle down, I've seen your posts that show that you aren't a experienced players, you are just a moderator that plays the game casually for a long time. If you have no idea how the mechanics work, why would you say stuff like that? Don't you have the feeling that being green makes your opinion more important for players and devs and while you don't know anything about stuff you are talking about maybe you should save it for yourself?

[azrid]

A man that runs on 2nd speed to quest shouldn't throw rocks at others for being bad at the game.

[Granger]

Back on topic, please.

[MagicManICT]

I don't care what kind of nerfs have been made to symbel

I have a strong feeling that you have no idea what you are talking about. I've seen your threads of you not being able to settle down, I've seen your posts that show that you aren't a experienced players, you are just a moderator that plays the game casually for a long time. If you have no idea how the mechanics work, why would you say stuff like that? Don't you have the feeling that being green makes your opinion more important for players and devs and while you don't know anything about stuff you are talking about maybe you should save it for yourself?

World 3: Bashing walls was a real thing, and it didn't matter what kind it was. Brick walls have a soak of somewhere significantly higher than 50, meaning someone needed somewhere in the range of 5000 STR to knock them down. In less than six months, the first wall basher was born. Not much later, others were running around. There was nowhere near the qualities for food nor the variety to make it easier.

You specifically may not figure out a way around the changes of mechanics. I don't know you personally or who comes up with the eating strategies. maybe it's you, maybe it's someone else in your play group. I can only tell you that if someone has a goal in mind and can find a means to do it, someone will do it. What's it matter if everyone is playing on the same level playing field? I'm not sure why you're defensive of this mechanic that is clearly completely unbalanced.

[Ozzy123]

What's it matter if everyone is playing on the same level playing field? I'm not sure why you're defensive of this mechanic that is clearly completely unbalanced.

We will have to come back to it in a few months, I can 100% assure you that the gap between hardcore "titan" players and random hermits will be bigger than ever.