Stop it!

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Re: Stop it!

Postby Headchef » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:45 am

You know what main motivation is about claiming?

That someone else doesn't drop a claim.

Want to allow people to dig clay? Oh wait that's vandalism yeah if you'd give that to anyone they would just replace your claim.

So yeah basically it's people protecting their own interest in the spot for a later point.. and if you arrive late, you have to deal with the pclaim...
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Re: Stop it!

Postby Hrenli » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:46 am

Headchef wrote:Want to allow people to dig clay? Oh wait that's vandalism yeah


It is actually not.

And in the linked example they are not protecting their future interests (the claim could have been MUCH smaller for that and even doesn't have to be on actual spot to protect from others claiming it). They are intentionally trying to stop others to access unlimited resource. Still fine game-wise, no objections, just pointing the flaws in your reasoning.
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Re: Stop it!

Postby Rilinea » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:52 am

I'm just trying to appeal to the human mind, because the seizure of something that cannot end is paranoia. And they insult me for it :( And I didn't say anything about clay
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Re: Stop it!

Postby D0fuz15 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:04 pm

The human mind teels to itself "why wouldnt i be an asshole and claim the thing i want", "why wouldnt i just go and kill you if i have the oportunity, so i dont have an annoying perdon asking things that i dont even care".

And if we suppose that the claims can not do that anymore the ppl in the game is going to find another way to do something similar and again and again.
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Re: Stop it!

Postby Embers » Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:40 pm

Hrenli wrote:It is actually not.

I'm afraid to hurt your pretend all-knowing ego but digging acre clay actually is vandalism.

On the topic. If someone claims a resource you plan on using, you use diplomacy, trade or warfare. Please notice there's no whining-on-the-forum-like-a-helpless-kid option listed. That's because whining will not solve your problem, but will just bring frustration to you and others
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Re: Stop it!

Postby Hrenli » Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:43 pm

Embers wrote:I'm afraid to hurt your pretend all-knowing ego but digging acre clay actually is vandalism.


I am afraid to hurt you ego, but please show me acre clay on the example picture provided. We were talking ball clay here.
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Re: Stop it!

Postby Embers » Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:49 pm

Theres no pictures in thread. And no, were talking claims in general, not your imaginary ball clay example pictures
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Re: Stop it!

Postby Hrenli » Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:51 pm

Embers wrote:Theres no pictures in thread. And no, were talking claims in general, not your imaginary ball clay example pictures


OP wrote:

Rilinea wrote:In this topic, it is clearly becoming clear that not only I disagree with such situations. viewtopic.php?f=48&t=64263


Also:

Headchef wrote:Want to allow people to dig clay? Oh wait that's vandalism yeah


I fail to see word "acre" here either.

As for the claims in general I mostly agree with your point of view if you take the time to read what I wrote. So, what was the reasoning behind all-knowing ego attack?
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Re: Stop it!

Postby Amanda44 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:59 pm

Rilinea wrote:
I am a peaceful.
We cannot normally sail in boats, we need to get around everything,


If your main issue with claims is the blocking of rivers, lakes etc then you should really consider just aquiring the trespassing skill ... I am also a peaceful player but will not be forced to take lengthy detours around huge claims when it is so much easier to just turn on trespassing and pass through. :)

Very few ppl, if any, bother about trespassing, the scent only lasts for 8 hrs, if anyone does track you it's usually just out of curiosity. If the claim is blocking passage then they know why you used trespassing. :)
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Re: Stop it!

Postby Embers » Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:08 pm

I fail to see the word ball clay either?
Anyways its not a matter to be arguing about, since we agree on the main point. You have my apology
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