Field crop quality averaging makes me want to bot farming

[MagicManICT]

I do not understand the current system. As far as I have understood you will get different change in quality depending of time of day you plant it. It will range from -2 to +5.
If I always plant in the evening will I alway get the same result?

No. I don't know internal details*, but let's say a random number seed is generated the first seed planted in an area. As you spread out, either via time or distance, there is a greater and greater variance. At some point you hit what is effectively a new random seed (about 500 tiles, or 8 hours if I recall correctly).

Taking your example, you could have planted before work (early morning) and after work (evening) each day of the week and gotten two completely random values every time.

*I'd imagine there is some fuzzy logic or using some fancy math to merge multiple random numbers together over the given interval(s). At a small range, it's practically unnoticeable. At near max range it's going to produce very random graphs

[Ysh]

F* seed sorting, though.

I think you still must sort seeds that you grow across multiple planting, except now you must also coordinate multiple plantings.

Need to save up what pain I can take for shitposting in C&I

Good call.

[Ardennesss]

I solved this with a flax bot that just runs 24/7 so you get as many high q plants of a new quality roll as possible. The fact that I had to do that should speak to how silly this system is. People with means are going to pull ahead from people without due to said bots.

[Granger]

F* seed sorting, though.

I think you still must sort seeds that you grow across multiple planting, except now you must also coordinate multiple plantings.

Exactly. This basically 'forces' players to log in multiple times per day in case they want to raise their crops within a reasonable timespan.
Basically it's steel refuel timer in even shittier, as it never ends.

While I'm also affected by RSI so I feel with you: use a sensible client (that supports quality sort mass-move per item type) and an external container, then seed sorting isn't that big of an issue.

[shubla]

Boring way would just be to have constant quality increase on your seeds on each replant.
But then there wouldn't be need for bots to have top crop ql.

[Sevenless]

Boring way would just be to have constant quality increase on your seeds on each replant.
But then there wouldn't be need for bots to have top crop ql.

Would also make farming well... even more boring than it already is no? Getting a good increase is like the only interesting thing there is in farming right now. I remember talk of a fertilizer system in the past, but I dare say I couldn't think of a way for it to not suffer these issues.

Maybe remove quality increase from normal farming, and have a special structure/plot that could be created for increasing quality?

[SaltyCrate]

How exactly do you plant your crops to have that much problems with it? I suspect there is a lot of misunderstanding in this thread about how this "averaging" works. Also, the numbers and advices on wiki farming page contradict my experience and I suspect they are plain wrong.

[DDDsDD999]

Boring way would just be to have constant quality increase on your seeds on each replant.
But then there wouldn't be need for bots to have top crop ql.

Would also make farming well... even more boring than it already is no? Getting a good increase is like the only interesting thing there is in farming right now.

You mean the reason we bot crops? These reasons against constant quality increase are so awful. No one enjoys manually raising quality knowing bots can do it better because they run 24/7 with no effort.

[SnuggleSnail]

F* seed sorting, though.

Arguably unrelated, but having the auto-plant feature plant your best seeds first would be cool too, esp since bots with that logic are already publicly available.

I'd rather seed sort than the current system, tho

[Sevenless]

You mean the reason we bot crops? These reasons against constant quality increase are so awful. No one enjoys manually raising quality knowing bots can do it better because they run 24/7 with no effort.

To be fair I did give an alternate system suggestion that separates Q farming from botting.