Water carry weight

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Re: Water carry weight

Postby Vigilance » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:39 am

i for one enjoy being able to carry well over a barrel on me at all times in waterskins.
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Re: Water carry weight

Postby Lojka » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:53 am

i think disabling drinking while in combat won't fix all problems

as it still can be exploited:
1. raider A attack random person
2. their water is disabled, they start to run
3. at some point they ar out of stamina, now they walk same speed
raider A litteraly can't get to person, they travel same speed

4. raider B, on steroids (water flasks) run near person
5. raider B run over person path, starting to body-block him, like creeps in dota
6. ...
6. profit !

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i think the only way to fix it is water satiaety
like another bar, under stamina bar
you drink - bar is filled
when bar is full - u can't drink

whant to remove water satiaety (sorry for wrong gramma) = they you just sit at chair or bench
no one could use chairs in combat = problem solved
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Re: Water carry weight

Postby Vigilance » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:55 am

disabling drinking in combat outright would sure make me happy when i'm trying to sprint away from the 8 infinite stamina slimes that are faster than my 3rd running speed that i unluckily dug out.
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Re: Water carry weight

Postby Jackwolf » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:02 am

Just make it so if you chug more than 10L of water in under 5 minutes your character stops and vomits for 30 seconds. No extra wounds, no downside for those not using it for combat purposes.
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Re: Water carry weight

Postby Avu » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:05 am

That still means you have to carry 3 water skins which I admit might not be quite as bad a thing.
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Re: Water carry weight

Postby Jackwolf » Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:11 pm

With belts the size they are, 3 seems like a decent limitation. Enough water to take some dashing maneuvers but not enough to spam sprint.
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Re: Water carry weight

Postby loskierek » Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:13 pm

maybe drinking while running is bad idea too? or filling up waterskuns from a bucket while running? those actions should be done while standing. Uh hur dur but then how do i catch the other person, well if you cant then you were outplayed and to people saying they can get ganked while chasing - well nobody told you to chase you decides to enter pvp in a mmo ganking is part of it. Some limitations have to be put on such activities - also limitations like that wouldnt hinder mining/choping that much as i never go throu a whole waterskin while getting 2 stacks of ore and thats when i go to sort out the stockpiles so it wouldnt affect anyone.
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Re: Water carry weight

Postby shubla » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:07 pm

I dont think limiting it is a good thing, in that case we could just take the salems system where items have weights and you can carry some kilograms of them.
If you want to limit water consumption in combat, maybe some other ways exist.
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Re: Water carry weight

Postby Vraatjuh » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:10 pm

shubla wrote:I dont think limiting it is a good thing, in that case we could just take the salems system where items have weights and you can carry some kilograms of them.
If you want to limit water consumption in combat, maybe some other ways exist.


But why would it not be good? A weight system with KG could work but takes so much balancing and therefore a very long time to implent. Max weight would have to depend on some sort of stat (Will/Psy??)\
Also, personally I would hate a KG system with max weight. I like the current system where you can just stack your inventory till it's full. It is just water running in PVP that is complete nonsense.

I am just proposing a short term solution for a tedious problem with close to no downside as far as I can see/hear.
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Re: Water carry weight

Postby shubla » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:26 pm

Vraatjuh wrote:
shubla wrote:I dont think limiting it is a good thing, in that case we could just take the salems system where items have weights and you can carry some kilograms of them.
If you want to limit water consumption in combat, maybe some other ways exist.


But why would it not be good? A weight system with KG could work but takes so much balancing and therefore a very long time to implent. Max weight would have to depend on some sort of stat (Will/Psy??)\
Also, personally I would hate a KG system with max weight. I like the current system where you can just stack your inventory till it's full. It is just water running in PVP that is complete nonsense.

I am just proposing a short term solution for a tedious problem with close to no downside as far as I can see/hear.

Just limiting the water amount in inventory seems like a bad solution.
There are other ways to limit water consumption in pvp for sure.
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