It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a life

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Re: It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a li

Postby terechgracz » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:30 pm

I think the answer to this infinite grind would be retweaking whole attribute skill and quality mechanic in such way that they would raise asymptotically to some fixed value, somewhat like in WURM ONLINE, there is visible end game where you can finally start raiding and having fun. In haven you can't because if you lose once you end forever.
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Re: It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a li

Postby Fierce_Deity » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:30 pm

Myeah I think questing needs a loose time gate system to it. Quest rewards could have a limited pool per character that regenerates each day, up to a certain limit. For example, everyone has a LP pool of 300k, but it regenerates at 25k a day. Or the hunger has a maximum pool of 200% reduction, but regenerates at 25% a day. Something like this could work. Makes it less mandatory to quest to feel competitive.
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Re: It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a li

Postby ChildhoodObesity » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:31 pm

i think the need for questing is very exaggerated, it isnt necessary to remain competitive, or at least not as much questing is required as people claim. i think there should be some kind of advantage to playing a lot more than other people otherwise you run out of things to do due to the timegates, rng and such in place!!
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Re: It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a li

Postby bmjclark » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:32 pm

Satiations are honestly awful for this too. Can't log on for a day? Well, you just missed out on a day of having your satiations regen. At least before (legacy, even last world with broken symbel) you could just eat food to your hearts content. Now you're very much time gated (and rng gated for that matter).
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Re: It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a li

Postby Colin500 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:37 pm

>add endless quests to the game that reward players with LP and Hunger reduction (+few extra hours daily needed to compete)
>add study desk so that people can at least fill it with curios and forget about their studies for a moment (-few extra hours daily needed to compete)
>add credos that almost feel like they are endless due to increasing amount of quests that have to be done each time (+few extra hours daily needed to compete)
>add more birds (+few extra hours daily needed to compete)
>add more credos (+few extra hours daily needed to compete)
>nerf food system so that more food is needed to gain stats thus forcing people to do quests for hunger reduction (+few extra hours daily needed to compete)
>nerf satiations (+few extra hours daily needed to compete)
>implement less frequent but longer lags due to hardware change tis not a bug but a feature(+few extra hours daily needed to compete)
>add more birds (+few extra hours daily needed to compete)
>consider job done
>people quit game

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Re: It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a li

Postby Potjeh » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:38 pm

Infinite stat growth is the real problem. People that have lives tend to take breaks from games, and that is severely punished when there's infinite stat growth.
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Re: It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a li

Postby Frantianno228 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:40 pm

What do you wait boi? Study curios inside your palisade and be top?
If you wanna have a good character please leave your walls and do some quests
Theres such thing in every game like that. In WOW u need do dungeons/local quests to raise your artifact, in Albion u need farm mobs to have 400/400 masteries, in minecraft u need leave your dirt house to kill some mobs so u can enchant ur sword.
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Re: It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a li

Postby Ozzy123 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:43 pm

ChildhoodObesity wrote:i think the need for questing is very exaggerated, it isnt necessary to remain competitive, or at least not as much questing is required as people claim. i think there should be some kind of advantage to playing a lot more than other people otherwise you run out of things to do due to the timegates, rng and such in place!!


You say that because you are a quester xd
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Re: It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a li

Postby Ozzy123 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:45 pm

Frantianno228 wrote:What do you wait boi? Study curios inside your palisade and be top?
If you wanna have a good character please leave your walls and do some quests
Theres such thing in every game like that. In WOW u need do dungeons/local quests to raise your artifact, in Albion u need farm mobs to have 400/400 masteries, in minecraft u need leave your dirt house to kill some mobs so u can enchant ur sword.


Come on frantianno you were supposed to not drink today.. Noone cares about leaving the village, people hate questing itself.
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Re: It's impossible to compete in this game if you have a li

Postby Frantianno228 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:45 pm

Ozzy123 wrote:
Frantianno228 wrote:What do you wait boi? Study curios inside your palisade and be top?
If you wanna have a good character please leave your walls and do some quests
Theres such thing in every game like that. In WOW u need do dungeons/local quests to raise your artifact, in Albion u need farm mobs to have 400/400 masteries, in minecraft u need leave your dirt house to kill some mobs so u can enchant ur sword.


Come on frantianno you were supposed to not drink today.. Noone cares about leaving the village, people hate questing itself.

Yes i hate questing 2, but this game is a little bit boring without it!
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