Reduce the Noise - A Request to Revive an 'Inner Party'

[Ardennesss]

It's pretty naive to think that "noise" is what's wrong with the game right now. Noise isn't the issue, jorb just doesn't want to listen to anyone - full stop. It doesn't matter who, or in what context.

well i wouldnt want to listen to any of you either. just take a look around the forum. its fuckin toxic here. even tho there are those that arent shitlords here it can be extremely demotivating. every single change the devs have pushed this year have been met with nothing more than whine and rage. personally i didnt like todays patch because i saw timegates but i then learned later on that im not effected by it no ever will be at my current rate.

Anyway, i dont see this working out at all. ever.

we all know what went down last time and this would be just setting up that same shit all over again. also you dont have representation for all the groups that play, how is a group of tryhard qchasers supposed to rep casual, players or make suggestions to improve NPE ( New Player Experience ) I dont know the numbers but i can say with 100% confidence that the retention rates are absolutely horrid

You can only be diplomatic for so long before you just call them out for being the retard sprucecaps that they are.

"Hey guys, questing sucks right now because the hunger rewards make it mandatory that you quest all the time - either remove hunger or remove hunger rewards so that we don't feel forced to do that" -Players
"Oh okay, we time gated all questing and the rewards are still random based on some behind the scene arbitrary bullshit that still makes no sense as requested by players." -Jorb
"That's not what we fucking asked for." -Players
"Shut up, sprucecap." -Jorb

[Vassteel]

It's pretty naive to think that "noise" is what's wrong with the game right now. Noise isn't the issue, jorb just doesn't want to listen to anyone - full stop. It doesn't matter who, or in what context.

well i wouldnt want to listen to any of you either. just take a look around the forum. its fuckin toxic here. even tho there are those that arent shitlords here it can be extremely demotivating. every single change the devs have pushed this year have been met with nothing more than whine and rage. personally i didnt like todays patch because i saw timegates but i then learned later on that im not effected by it no ever will be at my current rate.

Anyway, i dont see this working out at all. ever.

we all know what went down last time and this would be just setting up that same shit all over again. also you dont have representation for all the groups that play, how is a group of tryhard qchasers supposed to rep casual, players or make suggestions to improve NPE ( New Player Experience ) I dont know the numbers but i can say with 100% confidence that the retention rates are absolutely horrid

You can only be diplomatic for so long before you just call them out for being the retard sprucecaps that they are.

"Hey guys, questing sucks right now because the hunger rewards make it mandatory that you quest all the time - either remove hunger or remove hunger rewards so that we don't feel forced to do that" -Players
"Oh okay, we time gated all questing and the rewards are still random based on some behind the scene arbitrary bullshit that still makes no sense as requested by players." -Jorb
"That's not what we fucking asked for." -Players

I do somewhat agree with you. Quests do suck, i havent even dont a meaningful amount of them and i already know their not fun.
i do like their idea of maybe bargining with the quest giver for something you want. but personally i would like to see the quest be item based, you dont get the quest outright but you get an item, you either study it, take it to your V idol or P claim( things like quality increases ), or you eat it. or trade it if you dont want it.

its not my game, im not a dev, so yeah best i can hope for is maybe giving them a suggestion that will help others ( PS, Im sorry for sand fleas )

[jorb]

They spit in my face

Jesus Christ.

[Zentetsuken]

It's not noise that's affecting them. I specifically exchanged messages with them regarding how punishing satiations are came up with not one but two systems to alleviate it and what do they do? They spit in my face and everyone elses who has been asking for removal of satiations/hunger by nerfing satiations yet again.

Regarding questing which everyone focuses on even though it only really affects a minority of the playerbase (the rest didn't fucking bother since they are cancer anyway) the general consensus versus a few of the no lifers was remove hunger and lp rewards. They just capped them all for some reason. It still doesn't affect most of the playerbase. There are a few people from the top grinding factions that are now coming out of the woodwork and telling us its icicles instead of quests well woompy do it's not like you and AD don't have all of those claimed and botted to the second is there? Did you pm the devs about this? Probably and you got ignored. What you gonna do you got wait for 2021 for jorb to finish reading last years suggestions and for him to recolor every tree with snow.

You are noise.

[XXPX1]

well i wouldnt want to listen to any of you either.

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You are noise.

This. 100%.

Lurking on these forums for nearly five years and it is so incredibly toxic.

Thanks Jorb/Loftar for bringing us H&H and I'm looking forward to its future.

[Avu]

Keep brownosing. Clearly the game its on its heights of popularity and number of people joining has boomed. Keep it up devs. Nothing to improve here.

[Granger]

Lurking on these forums for nearly five years and it is so incredibly toxic.

So your point is that I should have been less lenient in my (alleged) quest to ban the whole forum?

[dafels]

last time there was "Inner party", the inner party was THE NOISE. They were producing shitloads of shitty ideas in their inner circle. Fuck inner party, everyone should post their ideas/critique on C&I so everyone can discuss upon, I think the C&I things that jorb receives via pm so they couldnt be discussed he should forward the PMs to post the shit to C&I and I am sure he receives shitloads of them.

[MooCow]

One of the biggest problems with listing to the pro players is that They do not want to have fun, They want to WIN.

Look at any game with a pro scene, and you will see a bunch of people that are intensely dedicated, and dislike all things that feel like that slow them down.

Nice Graphics? No! I want to look at precise boxes that tell me exactly what I need to know, Nothing more nothing less
A little randomness for excitement? No! I want everything to be completely deterministic. Nothing should ever be out of my complete control
Catch up mechanics? No! I want my dedication to put me above everyone else. Nothing should let others, who work less hard, reach my level

It ins't like their position isn't understandable, but it is oppositional to the fun for new players and casual players. Casual players want to see they pretty scenery, be surprised, and generally feel relevant.

I think any successful game needs to focus on both.

[Aceb]

You act like only PROs would be allowed to inner cycle which is false. Different group representants would give different idea and devs would have different opinions about one thing. There's a reason why not a group of friends but a gathering of different people would be a part of cycle imho.