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Re: Credos bad

Postby NeoRed9 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:09 pm

CREDO BAD ORANGE MAN GOOD
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Re: Credos bad

Postby Burinn » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:30 pm

NeoRed9 wrote:CREDO BAD ORANGE MAN GOOD


CREDO GOOD. ORANGE MAN BAD.


I don't really know that I agree with the complaints people make against credos. They're really not that bad. Once the seasonal stuff gets ironed out I think they'll be fine.
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Re: Credos bad

Postby SnuggleSnail » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:41 pm

Burinn wrote:Once the seasonal stuff gets ironed out I think they'll be fine.



People used to say this about absurd quests you're not even supposed to do, like study multiple golden eggs, or experience ANYTHING.

It just keeps getting worse every world...
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Re: Credos bad

Postby Burinn » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:42 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:
Burinn wrote:Once the seasonal stuff gets ironed out I think they'll be fine.



People used to say this about absurd quests you're not even supposed to do, like study multiple golden eggs, or experience ANYTHING.

It just keeps getting worse every world...


This would be true if you ignored all of the fixes they've pushed out on them, sure. Why would you ignore them though?
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Re: Credos bad

Postby Amanda44 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:44 pm

jordancoles wrote:Credos were bad enough because of the scaling but seasons make them literally unfinishable in a lot of cases.
Forager asks for things that only spawn in fall and fisherman seems to be the same.

Hunter has always been the easiest of the initial 3 and usually we would complete it last because of that, but now it is almost more worthwhile to do hunter first just so that you can actually complete a credo at all

This is exactly my feeling on them ... I actually like the idea of credos, I think with these two issues adjusted they are a good addition to the game ... they get you out and about, give you something to do when waiting on other things and ofc you get some nice and useful bonuses, but, the ridiculous scaling and now the further dragging them out due to seasonal requests just completely ruin them and remove any fun aspect they might have had.
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Re: Credos bad

Postby Salad » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:55 pm

jordancoles wrote:Credos were bad enough because of the scaling but seasons make them literally unfinishable in a lot of cases.
Forager asks for things that only spawn in fall and fisherman seems to be the same.

Hunter has always been the easiest of the initial 3 and usually we would complete it last because of that, but now it is almost more worthwhile to do hunter first just so that you can actually complete a credo at all


This is my only current complaint with credos. Wrong season? come back in a week (or longer!) so you can actually progress.

That complaint can go for any quest right now though, questing is annoying with seasons.
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Re: Credos bad

Postby boshaw » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:59 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:the way they are


you know what my sandbox game needs? radiant quests you're required to rush complete hundreds of hours worth of every year or so

Quests are easily the worst part about hafen. They somehow managed to combine all the worse questing ideas all into one to make the most boring, rng based, daily quest system.
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Re: Credos bad

Postby borka » Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:49 pm

After Gardener Credo annoyed me totally ... took me over 2 seasons to finish, i started logging when starting Potter which i didn't finish because worlds end (mainly thanx to study timegates) ... while nearly all those study objects most ppl don't even touch anymore in week 2 of playing ... especially not when you're maintaining a bunch auf auth in your hermit village ... think they need to bot it a bit more ...

Level 1/5
1/10 Study a stained glass heart
2/10 Gain 1 point of Dexterity
3/10 Bring feldspar to Amaleux
4/10 Gain 2 points of Perception
5/10 Study a hand impression
6/10 Bring bone ash to Cornuga
7/10 Bring a porcelain plate to Filwindis
8/10 Gain 1 Point of Perception
9/10 Gain 6 points of Dexterity,
Study a crude Idol
10/10 Study a crude idol

Level 2/5

1/10 Pick gray clay (x18)
2/10 Create an artifact for perception
3/10 Study a crude idol (x2)
4/10 Bring feldspar to Skameld,
Create an artifact for Dexterity,
Gain 2 points of Masonry
5/10 Bring bone clay to Heribaud,
Make an unfired pot
6/10 Make an unfired earthenware platter (x2)
7/10 Make bone clay,
Gain 1 point of Dexterity
8/10 Create an artifact for perception,
Acquire feldspar (x13)
9/10 Bring a stoneware vase to Golojana
10/10 Bring a stoneware vase to Ermbin,
Acquire gray clay (x12)

Level 3/5

1/10 Bring bone ash to Dobroker,
Study a toy chariot
Acquire bone ash (x2)
2/10 Create an artifact for Perception,
Gain 2 points of Masonry,
Make an unfired pot
3/10 Bring gray clay to Amaleux,
Gain 3 points of Masonry
4/10 Create an artifact for Dexterity,
Make an unfired urn
5/10 Bring Feldspar to Ermbin,
Study a toy chariot
6/10 Study a toy chariot (x2),
Acquire Feldspar (x2)
7/10 Gain 2 points of Perception,
Make bone clay
8/10 Bring a stoneware vase to Skameld,
Acquire gray clay (x18)
9/10 Bring a porcelain plate to Angricce,
Gain 1 point of Masonry,
Acquire cave clay
10/10 Study a potent rod (x2)

Level 4/5

1/10 Make an unfired urn
2/10 Make an unfired urn,
Study a porcelain doll
3/10 Make an unfired pot,
Gain 1 poimt of Dexterity
4/10 Make an unfired urn,
Gain 1 point of Dexterity
5/10 Study a prism,
Bring a porcelain plate to Filwindis
6/10 Make an unfired pot,
Bring a stoneware vase to Nibelheid,
Study a hand impression (x2),
Gain 4 points of Masonry
7/10 Make an unfired pot,
Acquire bone ash (x3),
Bring Feldspar to Conurga
8/10 Acquire cave clay (x2)
9/10 Study a hand impression,
Make an unfired urn
10/10 Gain 3 points of Masonry,
Create an artifact for Masonry

Level 5/5
1/10 Create an artifact for Dexterity,
Acquire cave clay (3x),
Study a toy chariot
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Re: Credos bad

Postby Ysh » Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:55 pm

I think credo is fine, but quest can be frustrating random.
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Re: Credos bad

Postby NeoRed9 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:29 pm

Burinn wrote:
NeoRed9 wrote:CREDO BAD ORANGE MAN GOOD


CREDO GOOD. ORANGE MAN BAD.


I don't really know that I agree with the complaints people make against credos. They're really not that bad. Once the seasonal stuff gets ironed out I think they'll be fine.


Trump literally stopped multiple nuclear holocausts, doubled the economy and made it illegal to break the law. How exactly is he bad?
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