Global Pools

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Re: Global Pools

Postby loleznub » Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:51 am

xdragonlord18 wrote:
dorag wrote:The current global pool system encourages botting, if the per *exp cost went up as more people could see it you would see less glimmermoss bots and pearl bots.

The global pool system does not encourage or discourage botting.


This is retarded, global pool system absolutely encourages botting. In fact, it punishes people that don't bot.

The bottom line is removing the global pool system would benefit all the normal players. Botters will always have more of the hard to get stuff because there's no work that goes into getting anything for them, when in comparison, people actively searching for them have to hope they get lucky against the dozens of bots that are each boiling and gathering thousands of mussels per day.

In the end, removing the pool would let players who actually put forth time and effort into getting pearls or glimmer because they at least them have the same base chance of finding them instead of competing with dozens of bots at the same time.

The solution to the problem is also silly. Do you really think increasing perception/Exploration cost of these things would make a difference to a botter? It doesn't. You can set any arbitrary number, whether it's 20*20 or 500*500, either way someone that is botting not only will have a problem getting to that benchmark, but will 100% beat you to it.
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Re: Global Pools

Postby Sevenless » Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:35 am

Been there, did not work that way at all.

Global pools limit the amount of those rare curios factions can generate, but it is not more or less beneficial to regular players. You can somewhat manipulate the system as a player based on how the respawn system works though in my experience.

Fate system helped "everyday joe" get more rare things, but it was universally hated by the playerbase.
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Re: Global Pools

Postby dorag » Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:42 am

SnuggleSnail wrote:global pool bad

This tbh remove them xd
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Re: Global Pools

Postby Burinn » Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:53 am

Global pool good.
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Re: Global Pools

Postby Sevenless » Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:59 am

Nobody remembers the cupboards of flotsam factions had back in legacy when people figured out decent foragebots?

... guess I'm dating myself a bit there.
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Re: Global Pools

Postby dorag » Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:14 am

Sevenless wrote:Nobody remembers the cupboards of flotsam factions had back in legacy when people figured out decent foragebots?

... guess I'm dating myself a bit there.


we had cupbords of glimmer at the begining of the world like day 2/3 before other ppl could see them and now we just have bots stealing from the pool meaning we get more and hermits get less i mean its to my advantage but a making bots is gae and b its not fun if others arent competitive.
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Re: Global Pools

Postby Burinn » Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:17 am

dorag wrote:we had cupbords of glimmer at the begining of the world like day 2/3 before other ppl could see them and now we just have bots stealing from the pool meaning we get more and hermits get less i mean its to my advantage but a making bots is gae and b its not fun if others arent competitive.


You know no one buys your "I run a 30 man village" schtick right
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Re: Global Pools

Postby Sevenless » Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:24 am

That sucks, but that's mostly because they don't taper the pool at world start. They let the pool refill at full tilt when almost no one can see it, which leads to oddities. Give it a month and the pool system works as intended.

This is not the same thing as infinite cabinets of botted flotsams.
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Re: Global Pools

Postby dorag » Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:26 am

Burinn wrote:
dorag wrote:we had cupbords of glimmer at the begining of the world like day 2/3 before other ppl could see them and now we just have bots stealing from the pool meaning we get more and hermits get less i mean its to my advantage but a making bots is gae and b its not fun if others arent competitive.


You know no one buys your "I run a 30 man village" schtick right

I can invite you to the discord also its easy to get glimmer on day 2 if you get heart wood leafs?
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Re: Global Pools

Postby dorag » Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:28 am

Sevenless wrote:That sucks, but that's mostly because they don't taper the pool at world start. They let the pool refill at full tilt when almost no one can see it, which leads to oddities. Give it a month and the pool system works as intended.

This is not the same thing as infinite cabinets of botted flotsams.

I also think it works for floatsums b.c floatsom bots arent worth setting up b.c they die so often from randoms and floatsoasm are so rare but with glimer and bat cape its pretty easy to bot and monopolize
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