How to fix creedo

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Re: How to fix creedo

Postby SnuggleSnail » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:37 pm

Burinn wrote:Yes. I like them. But "fix credos by removing quests from them and just make them cost LP" is just such a low effort "solution" to your problem.

Making them cost LP would make them orders of magnitude easier to complete. Having someone maxed out on credoes after a month is just silly.



I started out in team #Credos are bad but they could be made good, but my opinion on them is pretty much the same as world 11 death mechanics. They're so fucking bad they almost make the game unplayable, so a bandaid fix to get it into a reasonable state is better than waiting 10 years for Jorb to figure something out with the game being trash in the meanwhile.


Love your game Jorbtar but credos are cancer and every world they make me want to quit before I even get to play the game!!!
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Re: How to fix creedo

Postby Burinn » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:38 pm

dorag wrote:The main motivation not to do them is that their unenjoyable not that their expensive or cost time everyone who plays this is ok with things that take time, but for some reason creedos are almost universally hated (doing them not their effects)


Yeah. Their bonuses are incredibly strong compared to anything else in the game. They also take effort to do. That's the point.

You can make whatever criticisms you want of how hard the quest scaling is, but to suggest that this be fixed by a just buying it like a skill is plain stupid.



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Re: How to fix creedo

Postby dorag » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:42 pm

Burinn wrote:
dorag wrote:The main motivation not to do them is that their unenjoyable not that their expensive or cost time everyone who plays this is ok with things that take time, but for some reason creedos are almost universally hated (doing them not their effects)


Yeah. Their bonuses are incredibly strong compared to anything else in the game. They also take effort to do. That's the point.

You can make whatever criticisms you want of how hard the quest scaling is, but to suggest that this be fixed by a just buying it like a skill is plain stupid.

my main sugestion is deleting them as i said no one in this game minds doing things that take effort last world i spent 10 hours a day mining to spiral metal so i dont think your argument of hur dur u just dont like them because they take effort for good bonuses is a little thonk id rather go back to mining all day to spiral metal so i could have som esteel sword my ally will steal from me at the metior fight than do creedos lol. But, no you'r probably right everyone who conplains about creedos must not like putting effort into things and their just playing this game b.c they want instant rewards kek
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Re: How to fix creedo

Postby dorag » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:43 pm

I like pvp content in this game and keeping up with others so i have to do it.
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Re: How to fix creedo

Postby dorag » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:44 pm

It is reasonable that for pvp i should have to get pearl diver and fisherman so i can swim faster
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Re: How to fix creedo

Postby Burinn » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:46 pm

dorag wrote:But, no you'r probably right everyone who conplains about creedos must not like putting effort into things and their just playing this game b.c they want instant rewards kek

Oh please, you can have a conversation about this without making up some bullshit strawman about what I think. You're a big boy.


Hey could you stop double triple posting and maybe just edit your last post instead? Inflating your threads makes you look like a twat.
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Re: How to fix creedo

Postby dorag » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:51 pm

Burinn wrote:
dorag wrote:But, no you'r probably right everyone who conplains about creedos must not like putting effort into things and their just playing this game b.c they want instant rewards kek

Oh please, you can have a conversation about this without making up some bullshit strawman about what I think. You're a big boy.


Hey could you stop double triple posting and maybe just edit your last post instead? Inflating your threads makes you look like a twat.

i dont think you can talk about logical fallicys when youve insulted me in almost everyone of your posts lol using false equivalcnes (saying since i dont like creedos i must not like doing work and red herring and changing the topic when i bring stuff up lol (bring up the fact that abondening 60 red onions can lead to harvest 80 than you say my problem with it is that i dont wana farm in the farming creedo :roll: when i said it was someone else too)
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Re: How to fix creedo

Postby dorag » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:52 pm

and im a leader of a village of 30 people if i wanted to inflate posts on something id just get everyone in my village to post on it. I just dont edit posts b.c lazy and so its ezy to read in the future.
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Re: How to fix creedo

Postby Burinn » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:53 pm

dorag wrote:i dont think you can talk about logical fallicys when youve insulted me in almost everyone of your posts lol using false equivalcnes (saying since i dont like creedos i must not like doing work and red herring and changing the topic when i bring stuff up lol (bring up the fact that abondening 60 red onions can lead to harvest 80 than you say my problem with it is that i dont wana farm in the farming creedo :roll: when i said it was someone else too)


In which post did I insult you? I said that 80 red onions is not prohibitive for a quest. What? You're reading into my posts too much bud. I'm sorry if you're offended by what I've said before but I seriously don't understand why you're having this kind of an emotional reaction.

It takes just as much effort to click edit as it does to make a new post. "Laziness" has nothing to do with it. It makes the thread more difficult for readers to follow from start to finish.
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Re: How to fix creedo

Postby dorag » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:55 pm

Burinn wrote:
dorag wrote:i dont think you can talk about logical fallicys when youve insulted me in almost everyone of your posts lol using false equivalcnes (saying since i dont like creedos i must not like doing work and red herring and changing the topic when i bring stuff up lol (bring up the fact that abondening 60 red onions can lead to harvest 80 than you say my problem with it is that i dont wana farm in the farming creedo :roll: when i said it was someone else too)


In which post did I insult you? I said that 80 red onions is not prohibitive for a quest. What? You're reading into my posts too much bud. I'm sorry if you're offended by what I've said before but I seriously don't understand why you're having this kind of an emotional reaction.

i didnt have an emotianal reaction you were bringing up that i was strawmaning you, so since you were bringing up logical falicys i thought id bring up some of yours, and you were dismising my arugument by saying i was drinking lazy etc in almost every post? Or the red herring right here of not answering my previous post and saying that its an emotianal reaction.
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