Frostbite wound; Winter should require warm clothes

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Re: Frostbite wound; Winter should require warm clothes

Postby Hasta » Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:16 pm

vatas wrote:New players could spawn with buff that makes them immune to frostbite for certain period of time?

Why? If one wanted to play so bad, one should've started in summer! It's hearthlands not kindergarten.
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Re: Frostbite wound; Winter should require warm clothes

Postby Ysh » Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:20 pm

Hasta wrote:
Ysh wrote:
Hasta wrote:As opposed to "completely idiotic and making people wipe the forum with shitposts out of boredom"? I'll take "harsh", thanks.

I think this is false dichotomy.

I'm not engaging in your pretentious rants, speak simple and effective words related to the thread or fuck off.

I do not see how six word can be called ''rant.'' In order to rant a man must continue on at length in wild or emotional way.

To describe your statement as ''false dichotomy'' was the simplest and most effective way to reply. This is precisely what your posting was. I guess you do not know what this means, but this does not mean it is ''pretentious'' to use this phrase. I think this phrase is well known to most English speaker, especially forum audience on board for debate and critique idea.

Simple explanation is that ''false dichotomy'' is when a man will be given two choice to pick from, but these two choice do not cover the entire scope of options. In this example, you give two choices as ''winter is harsh'' or ''winter is completely idiotic and making people wipe the forum with shitposts out of boredom.'' Logically, there is other option here beyond these two. For example, winter could be ''fun.'' Your statement suggest that ''harsh'' is only alternative to ''idiotic and boring.'' This is false, hence it is false dichotomy.

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Re: Frostbite wound; Winter should require warm clothes

Postby xdragonlord18 » Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:24 pm

Hasta wrote:
xdragonlord18 wrote:Ironically that is exactly what Ysh is doing but you clearly aren't educated enough to follow.

I seem to have shut that one up quite effectively, huh. Education: 0, street smarts: 1.

The only time you should use the word "smart" to describe yourself is when the word "not" precedes it.
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Re: Frostbite wound; Winter should require warm clothes

Postby Ysh » Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:26 pm

Hasta wrote:
xdragonlord18 wrote:Ironically that is exactly what Ysh is doing but you clearly aren't educated enough to follow.

I seem to have shut that one up quite effectively, huh. Education: 0, street smarts: 1.

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Re: Frostbite wound; Winter should require warm clothes

Postby Hasta » Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:27 pm

Ysh wrote:blah.


Nope.

Just so you don't get too condescending - your initial pretentious rant was wrong since a dichotomy requires the implication of options presented being the only two. In the context of discussion (which we are so desperately trying to derail) it is obvious that additional harshness proposed in the idea of Frostbite and general increase of things to do in winter will inevitably make it less idiotic and boring. Therefore, my comment was not a dichotomy, but, rather, a recognition of an alternative.
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Re: Frostbite wound; Winter should require warm clothes

Postby Ysh » Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:48 pm

Hasta wrote:
Ysh wrote:blah.


Nope.

Just so you don't get too condescending - your initial pretentious rant was wrong since a dichotomy requires the implication of options presented being the only two. In the context of discussion (which we are so desperately trying to derail) it is obvious that additional harshness proposed in the idea of Frostbite and general increase of things to do in winter will inevitably make it less idiotic and boring. Therefore, my comment was not a dichotomy, but, rather, a recognition of an alternative.

Within context, you are replying to this comment:
azrid wrote:Because otherwise winter would be too harsh.

With this one:
As opposed to "completely idiotic and making people wipe the forum with shitposts out of boredom"? I'll take "harsh", thanks.

This discussing as I understand it proceeds like this:
1. Man suggests that player should require warm clothing in winter.
2. Another man says this is not good idea, because winter will become too harsh.
3. You reply to this second man saying that harsh is better than idiotic and boring.

This very much does establish dichotomy between ''harsh'' and ''idiotic and boring.'' The only way that argument of ''harsh is better than idiotic and boring'' can be compelling for establish that harsh is best is if these two option are only options. Otherwise, why a man would not say ''well, sure, harsh is maybe better than idiotic and boring, but why not we pick fun instead of harsh?'' If there is a third option of ''fun'' for example, then ''harsh is better than idiotic and boring'' is not a compelling argument in favor of harsh, just argument against ''idiotic and boring.'' I am assuming in good faith that you try to make compelling argument for idea which you think is best for game, and I hope other readers will do this too. This is why there is implication of dichotomy, because your posting is presented as argument in favor of harsh being best option for game.
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Re: Frostbite wound; Winter should require warm clothes

Postby Hasta » Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:54 pm

Ysh wrote:The only way that argument of ''harsh is better than idiotic and boring'' can be compelling for establish that harsh is best is if these two option are only options.

Here. This is where you fucked up. Or, as your "educated" alter ego would reply, that's the fallacy.

Fix it and try again. Use more words next time. I don't read past the first of your fallacies I find anyway.
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Re: Frostbite wound; Winter should require warm clothes

Postby Ysh » Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:12 pm

Hasta wrote:
Ysh wrote:The only way that argument of ''harsh is better than idiotic and boring'' can be compelling for establish that harsh is best is if these two option are only options.

Here. This is where you fucked up. Or, as your "educated" alter ego would reply, that's the fallacy.

Fix it and try again. Use more words next time. I don't read past the first of your fallacies I find anyway.

I do not see how this one is fallacy. You can explain your reasoning here? Though I suspect you are not interested in understand each other given you insult me unprovoked and admit to not read my postings. Maybe it can be better to leave it as this.
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Re: Frostbite wound; Winter should require warm clothes

Postby Hasta » Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:24 pm

Ysh wrote:Maybe it can be better to leave it as this.

I told you I'm not interested and you should take your interest for "reasoning" with other people elsewhere. I also used harsh words to keep it simple. You decided to use idiotingly boring difficult words. Which one was better? How's that for a dichotomy? Naah I'm just playing. Yeah you should've left. It's still better to leave, as you stated. Take your chance.
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Re: Frostbite wound; Winter should require warm clothes

Postby azrid » Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:31 pm

Hasta wrote:As opposed to "completely idiotic and making people wipe the forum with shitposts out of boredom"? I'll take "harsh", thanks.

You've missed the plot.
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