Opt out of realm

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Re: Opt out of realm

Postby Aceb » Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:39 am

Mr_Bober wrote:-1 makes no sense to be able to. Also no real benefit in doing so.


Real benefit is not supporting the realm that forcibly covered You.

Yeah, it is easier to say then done but with how "bad" current drag&drop(&bot) cancer spreading realm works, if You do not have anybody (as in other faction) to help You break out and cover, packing yourself seems a bad idea if, let's say, You have a deep mine and whole industry set up. Not to say that building up your realm might be as well hard if your location is covered in several cairns that are hard to break.

Or just being quiet and enjoying the buffs (if any) and let them sip that sweet delicious xp.
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Re: Opt out of realm

Postby Vigilance » Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:53 am

Aceb wrote:"bad" current drag&drop(&bot) cancer spreading realm works.

do you actually think any realms this world are spread with bots

come on, aceb. you're smarter than that.

fat -1 to this entire thread, totally counters realms lol, do agree with opting out of public chat tho
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Re: Opt out of realm

Postby AtoB » Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:56 am

Villages should have a way to give realms the finger.

+1 for this.
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Re: Opt out of realm

Postby Mr_Bober » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:07 am

Aceb wrote:
Real benefit is not supporting the realm that forcibly covered You.

Yeah, it is easier to say then done but with how "bad" current drag&drop(&bot) cancer spreading realm works, if You do not have anybody (as in other faction) to help You break out and cover, packing yourself seems a bad idea if, let's say, You have a deep mine and whole industry set up. Not to say that building up your realm might be as well hard if your location is covered in several cairns that are hard to break.

Or just being quiet and enjoying the buffs (if any) and let them sip that sweet delicious xp.


That's kinda the whole point of realms, just like kingdoms and such worked IRL. You should be greatful that the "xp tax" you pay to them is actually a free bonus, and they don't really drain your xp or lp.
You have the same options as you would IRL. Ask for another realm to help and cover you, or move away.
Also as someone pointed out, u can just move underground and most likely they won't cover you.
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Re: Opt out of realm

Postby Aceb » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:31 pm

Vigilance wrote:
Aceb wrote:"bad" current drag&drop(&bot) cancer spreading realm works.

do you actually think any realms this world are spread with bots

come on, aceb. you're smarter than that.

fat -1 to this entire thread, totally counters realms lol, do agree with opting out of public chat tho


Yes I am, just saw a script (not in action) that could work so I wouldn't be surprised if that's true. I don't deny your -1 or anything.

Mr_Bober wrote:
Aceb wrote:
Real benefit is not supporting the realm that forcibly covered You.

Yeah, it is easier to say then done but with how "bad" current drag&drop(&bot) cancer spreading realm works, if You do not have anybody (as in other faction) to help You break out and cover, packing yourself seems a bad idea if, let's say, You have a deep mine and whole industry set up. Not to say that building up your realm might be as well hard if your location is covered in several cairns that are hard to break.

Or just being quiet and enjoying the buffs (if any) and let them sip that sweet delicious xp.


That's kinda the whole point of realms, just like kingdoms and such worked IRL. You should be greatful that the "xp tax" you pay to them is actually a free bonus, and they don't really drain your xp or lp.
You have the same options as you would IRL. Ask for another realm to help and cover you, or move away.
Also as someone pointed out, u can just move underground and most likely they won't cover you.


The issue I see here is that if You want to combat actively that realm You either have to get out or join another realm to be able to fight back. If You spread your kingdom like a cancer cell and take over a huge part of land, You're gonna have a lot of fuel to work with.
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Re: Opt out of realm

Postby shubla » Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:35 pm

Vigilance wrote:
Aceb wrote:"bad" current drag&drop(&bot) cancer spreading realm works.

do you actually think any realms this world are spread with bots

come on, aceb. you're smarter than that.

fat -1 to this entire thread, totally counters realms lol, do agree with opting out of public chat tho

I don't know if the actual cairns are built by bots, but it is obvious that bots are being used VERY HEAVILY in spreading of some of the realms.
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Re: Opt out of realm

Postby Headchef » Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:43 pm

shubla wrote:
Vigilance wrote:
Aceb wrote:"bad" current drag&drop(&bot) cancer spreading realm works.

do you actually think any realms this world are spread with bots

come on, aceb. you're smarter than that.

fat -1 to this entire thread, totally counters realms lol, do agree with opting out of public chat tho

I don't know if the actual cairns are built by bots, but it is obvious that bots are being used VERY HEAVILY in spreading of some of the realms.


Shubla should stop posting for speaking retarded nonsense he knows nothing about.
Spreading realm is so easy and such big cooldown there is no need for bots at all.
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Re: Opt out of realm

Postby AtoB » Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:18 pm

Headchef wrote:Spreading realm is so easy and such big cooldown there is no need for bots at all.

The easy things are automated first.

And the way to combat this is to make a realm of your own.

Which is not an option for >95% of the player base. And you know that.
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Re: Opt out of realm

Postby Headchef » Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:01 pm

AtoB wrote:
Headchef wrote:Spreading realm is so easy and such big cooldown there is no need for bots at all.

The easy things are automated first.

And the way to combat this is to make a realm of your own.

Which is not an option for >95% of the player base. And you know that.



95>% of the playerbase should then not try to meddle with things which they should have no influence on?

Same reasoning why alts/weak players dont deserve special protection because it will just be abused for grief
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