realm expansion

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Re: realm expansion

Postby xzo » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:33 am

Astarisk wrote:What I see is people are complaining that another group is actively engaging in a system they wish to have no part of.


well I dont fancy running with 20 alts, alerts and all that crap you guys are doing, and dont get me wrong, I dont blame you for abusing the power this system is giving you. What I am pointing out in this topic is bad design in terms of expanding realm, I used you playstyle as an example as you are clearly finding benefits of that design.

there is many issues pointed out with naked alts, and this would be one of easiest to fix, just add some logical limitations, you need to spend 4000 lp to have pclaim, 20 000 lp to tresspass, 225 000 to siege, and zero to expand realm, its like there is a player with 5m lp and player with none who tells the 1st one - you are under my realm from now on
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Re: realm expansion

Postby Nightdawg » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:40 am

Idk man, took snuggle like 10 minutes to figure out in which alt's client I was whistling. That's a dedicated player expanding their kingdom.

Though it would be nice to require alts to need siegecraft or something, it would at least slow it down in the beginning of the world by a few days I guess?
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Re: realm expansion

Postby Astarisk » Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:16 am

xzo wrote:
Astarisk wrote:What I see is people are complaining that another group is actively engaging in a system they wish to have no part of.


well I dont fancy running with 20 alts, alerts and all that crap you guys are doing, and dont get me wrong, I dont blame you for abusing the power this system is giving you. What I am pointing out in this topic is bad design in terms of expanding realm, I used you playstyle as an example as you are clearly finding benefits of that design.

there is many issues pointed out with naked alts, and this would be one of easiest to fix, just add some logical limitations, you need to spend 4000 lp to have pclaim, 20 000 lp to tresspass, 225 000 to siege, and zero to expand realm, its like there is a player with 5m lp and player with none who tells the 1st one - you are under my realm from now on


I'm not disagreeing that things need to be changed. Snail's entire purpose for the realm was to show how how bad realm mechanics are, especially with foresight and planning. There was a lot of planning done before the new world was open and just adding a cost like that to realm building wouldn't have changed much of the plan at all. Just a bit more effort in the early stages to make sure characters are ready before realm expansion comes. Those type of limitations aren't really limited to someone who has been this dedicated and focused on making a realm. I'd argue those changes would hurt the other realms more than it would hurt and slow down BB.
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