Boat hunting is lame

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Re: Boat hunting is lame

Postby Zepar72 » Tue May 04, 2021 1:49 pm

Prevent attacking when using dugout/rowboat, or nerf weapons range to match aniamals and that problem disappears. Sure there are lots of ways to cheese animals, but boat spear hunting is more of an exploit than cheese, as you just watch animals die doing nothing. Other cheeses actually require some effort from the hunter.
And about animals running away, even without re-agro cheese, it's so easy to track them. I think most people hate animals fleeing because it makes aniamals move from "good hunting spot", meaning a place they're reasily cheesed around.
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Re: Boat hunting is lame

Postby rye130 » Tue May 04, 2021 2:17 pm

Zepar72 wrote:I think most people hate animals fleeing because it makes aniamals move from "good hunting spot", meaning a place they're reasily cheesed around.


Yeah its totally not because they run away at their max speed, unaffected by terrain changes and not slowed down by going up hill. Its also really fun when you catch up and they just start running away again.

Then its really fun after finally catching them to carry their dead corpse back at crawl speed the entire distance you just ran for 5 minutes.

Great stuff!
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Re: Boat hunting is lame

Postby Zepar72 » Tue May 04, 2021 2:28 pm

rye130 wrote:
Zepar72 wrote:I think most people hate animals fleeing because it makes aniamals move from "good hunting spot", meaning a place they're reasily cheesed around.


Yeah its totally not because they run away at their max speed, unaffected by terrain changes and not slowed down by going up hill. Its also really fun when you catch up and they just start running away again.

Then its really fun after finally catching them to carry their dead corpse back at crawl speed the entire distance you just ran for 5 minutes.

Great stuff!


Is really sarcasm the best way to go if you can't make sensible arguments? If you want to hunt fast animals without horse, then gj. Do it without weapons, armor and 0UA and MC too, then go "it's sooo funnn animals can't be beaten without cheese". Every single problems of yours is solved with a horse. Want to hunt something that you can catch on foot, hunt ants, bats and foxes on grass.
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Re: Boat hunting is lame

Postby Massa » Tue May 04, 2021 4:26 pm

Zepar72 wrote:And about animals running away, even without re-agro cheese, it's so easy to track them. I think most people hate animals fleeing because it makes aniamals move from "good hunting spot", meaning a place they're reasily cheesed around.

This just tells me you haven't really done much hunting. Dude, half of them take off at faster than sprint speed. They are literally not possible to catch without deaggroing. They have warp drives built into their cheeks. Rye is right.

The 'blood' they leave to track them might as well not be there. There is no 'tracking' a fleeing animal. Just wrestling with a pathing AI. Then, their pathing can take them a good country mile away from anywhere they'd logically be found. Animal "cheesing" happens because the AI is made in such a way that it is the only way to actually kill them before you can 1 hit them with a bloated b12.

I really don't understand this need to have a fair 1v1 fist fight with a wild animal.

P.S. have fun hunting a fucking bear on a horse. Let me know how many you have after a few attempts.
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Re: Boat hunting is lame

Postby xzo » Tue May 04, 2021 4:33 pm

boat hunting is fine, animal AI needs improvement
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Galley with good oars Sail to distant shores
Stand up high in the prow Noble barque I steer
Steady course for the haven Hew many foe-men,
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Re: Boat hunting is lame

Postby Zepar72 » Tue May 04, 2021 5:37 pm

xzo wrote:boat hunting is fine, animal AI needs improvement


So far it's not, it could've been turned off untill animls can handle it
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