Make whales and orcas more common

[MadNomad]

the hardest part of hunting a whale is finding a whale

[mulamishne]

The oceans aren't big enough to support too many whales, it's simple law of ecosystems!

Mechanically, if we were to have more whales, the whale products would have to be nerfed significantly. As is, there is a point in the game where whale products are the only product that matters for a significant amount of time!

[ctopolon4]

spending 4+hrs to find cachalot (and 100l tar) is abit tedious
also abusing combat system and dont fair fight them is not good

[MadNomad]

spending 4+hrs to find cachalot (and 100l tar) is abit tedious

Tedium, a Feature

[BoxingRock]

spending 4+hrs to find cachalot (and 100l tar) is abit tedious

Tedium, a Feature

that was written before the implementation of whales so it doesn't count

i think onep would have definitely agreed with the difficulty and rarity of whale spawns

[DDDsDD999]

Bro, if you're having trouble finding whales just invest in a gold sub, it makes them so common. I think over half of my game-time this world was just killing whales.

[WowGain]

Making whales and orcas more common is a great idea but until jorb and loftar get an angel investor to cover their living expenses while they create their masterpiece, they'll have to restrict themselves to short working schedules. Such is a fact of life. I'd love to live in a utopian society where we can all pursue our dreams*, but we don't, and our overlords demand of us a certain amount of labor a week to maintain sustenance and shelter. Everyone has to make their own decisions on how to best fulfill their lives. Sometimes that's making a grand work of art, other times that's having family or career.

I think that ideas should be in the realm of practical. I don't know how jorb and loftar's thoughts have changed over the years on working with a team on Haven, but it's always been "their project." It's not the first and not going to be the last indie game like this. I think ideas should respect such decisions--if there isn't a desire to expand the team, then ideas should reflect that value and be supportive of it.

I don't want to discourage anyone's ideas. Sometimes the greatest spark for inspiration can come from the strangest places. Some folks, me being one of them, holds themselves back for "what's practical." Others can aim for the stars and be happy when they just get ahead a few steps.



*not... this is what got us some of the worst societal systems. Capitalism, much like democracy, sucks for creating stable, peaceful societies, but there isn't a better system currently in existence that still allows the level of freedom to pursue one's dreams.

[strpk0]

Daily reminder that whales and orcas are terrible content that heavily benefits botting and brings nothing of value to the game, +1 for getting rid of them or atleast making them non killable.

Also the reason why you can’t find any is because the devs, in their infinite wisdom, decided that the solution to content that everyone was botting because its so OP yet so god damn mind numbingly boring was to make them much much rarer, so that now ONLY botters can benefit from them. Btw, this also happened in an unannounced stealth patch, and our group immediately noticed when it happened because we suddenly went from finding 7 or 8 of them per day to maybe 1 or 2 each few days.

Also making them similar to meteors in any way is a terrible idea because locking progression behind PvP leads to boring ass zerging, plus knarr/snekkja fights are cancer and full of exploits, I dread being forced to PvP for them.

[Sevenless]

Also making them similar to meteors in any way is a terrible idea because locking progression behind PvP leads to boring ass zerging, plus knarr/snekkja fights are cancer and full of exploits, I dread being forced to PvP for them.

Dying by OCO bugs during whale meteors when?

[MadNomad]

There isn't a high tier player who thinks manually whaling is fun (maybe Trollex) and if you increase spawns people who farm them are just gonna get more and create a larger

I think we could also significantly lower their HP, they would still have a lot remaining in this case!

It would also be nicer if they spawned closer to coasts