Ending cosmetic item extortion

[Massa]

this is a full loot permadeath pvp game though

you have the choice. no one is robbing anyone when the game is about robbing people. this is a pvp game, and there is nothing that should be off the table within the game. the sub tokens themselves even warn you of this, that whatever happens with them in the game is fair game.

[Kaios]

the sub tokens themselves even warn you of this, that whatever happens with them in the game is fair game.

yes and they create more issues than hat looting does

[Mashadar]

Without an easy way to transfer hats, you no longer get a choice and things just go back to how they were before, meaning you die by default.
You always have the option to tell them to fuck off. But even a hermit character is sometimes worth more than a store hat.

From what I've seen, the ones that pull the hat or die thing are mostly Snail's and Ozzy's groups. They attack anyone in sight, hat or not. If you don't have a hat, you typically don't get to choose.
Extortion was always a thing, though at least in Ozzy's case, it used to be a bit more creative than just "hat or die", like "make my guy lawspeaker or you all die". A hat would have been preferable in that particular case.

So objectively speaking this is not a good idea for potential victims, so the remaining question is whether this is really making the game look bad enough on social media that it's worth doing something about it. Links to relevant discussions on social media would be helpful in determining that.

[Sevenless]

Without an easy way to transfer hats, you no longer get a choice and things just go back to how they were before, meaning you die by default.
You always have the option to tell them to fuck off. But even a hermit character is sometimes worth more than a store hat.

From what I've seen, the ones that pull the hat or die thing are mostly Snail's and Ozzy's groups. They attack anyone in sight, hat or not. If you don't have a hat, you typically don't get to choose.
Extortion was always a thing, though at least in Ozzy's case, it used to be a bit more creative than just "hat or die", like "make my guy lawspeaker or you all die". A hat would have been preferable in that particular case.

So objectively speaking this is not a good idea for potential victims, so the remaining question is whether this is really making the game look bad enough on social media that it's worth doing something about it. Links to relevant discussions on social media would be helpful in determining that.

You misunderstand me, I don't care if people die because they get ganked by bored pvpers. It's part of the game, and honestly I feel like the mechanics give players a fair shake to defend themselves/not insta die right now. I care that the game is kept inside the game, and doesn't extend to people being extorted for things that cost actual money.

[Mashadar]

You misunderstand me, I don't care if people die because they get ganked by bored pvpers. It's part of the game, and honestly I feel like the mechanics give players a fair shake to defend themselves/not insta die right now. I care that the game is kept inside the game, and doesn't extend to people being extorted for things that cost actual money.

I think that kinda went out the window when the store was added, tokens and hats made RMT simpler and more streamlined, so you can now put a dollar price tag to most items in the game.
There no longer is a clear border between the game and real life as there used to be.
But I can at least appreciate any effort to reverse this.

[pheonix]

Honestly any half decent developer would stomp this shit straight away as it can cause alot of headaches financially and reputation wise. Alas jorb and loftar are too busy living in a fantasy world in their heads and pandering to sociopaths to actually do anything. You are wasting your breath atm sevenless because your appealing to the morale fiber of a developer who has shown time and time again to favor the people doing these acts, hell they unbanned a guy who posted a client with trojans and then killed peoples characters after stealing their passwords, that says it all really.

[Nightdawg]

Expect significant resistance to this. People are making actual, real-life money off of this so some have a real interest in keeping things the way they are.

This.

better suggestion: ban problematic people
this problem is not widespread there are literally handful of people doing it because no consequences because devs are stupid

And this.

But nothing will be done, even though it only takes a very low amount of effort to prevent like 90% of this cringe.

[jorb]

Not quite sure what to think about it, tbt.

[Zyean]

Not quite sure what to think about it, tbt.

Add a marketplace where it's the only place you can trade hats and then take a 10% transfer fee :]

[pawnchito]

^ literally what nfts should be. Anyway what in the fuck is tbt? damn young hip kids and the lingo.