Change sleds/skiis and 4th speed in winter

[Dawidio123]

Lowkey agree with snail here, like we can put a dozen bandaids on the system or just yeet it. The former takes more dev time and usually still leaves us with a bad system.
Although arguably winter is a nice excuse to not log in for a week.

[vatas]

I do really like non-combat use of sleds, though. Hearth Magic to nerf the combat use of sleds/skis is probably the best way to fix it. How about Hearth Magic to instantly melt the snow around you (along with dismount/unequip timers for sleds and skis)? Would effectively accomplish the same thing, make more sense lore-wise than some magical ski sabotage, and be multi-functional (in case you just really want to clear the snow around your base or something).

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[Flameturtle]

What are the pitfalls or removing hand to hand pvp combat from vehicles altogether?

Guess you might have to leave your sled behind since you can't rope it like a horse

Chasing on horse will still let you catch up to targets until you have to dismount for the kill.

If you still allow marksmanship from platforms that are stable enough, rowboat or bigger then it would give mm more use and allow for boat fights still, plus if you chase down someone on their boat they're still going to have to dismount eventually to get home. Suppose this might cause literally endless boat chases but maybe allowing it when boarding would alleviate that.

Dugouts or coracle might then become invincible but you can still mm them or bash the boat.

Perhaps still allow moves for up gain etc but no attacks.

Always ran away on my boat so not sure how a normal boat chase goes from the point of view of the attacker so not sure if it messes things up.


There might be too many issues with this as a solution but a hearth magic to bring it in line with horse counter is good otherwise.

[ChildhoodObesity]

What are the pitfalls or removing hand to hand pvp combat from vehicles altogether?

The main problem is that people would just use them to body block you rather than catch up/fight you and the people fighting you would catch up and dunk you basically instantly. You can get knocked out extremely fast in this combat system and if you're running for a few people and get body blocked for a few seconds that's all it really takes.

[Flameturtle]

I suppose that might be a problem but wouldn't that be the case for the runner anyway? This way they could attack the horseman trying to block them but the blocker can't make openings on them or help the fight at all whereas before they'd have still been able to do so from horseback.

[HasseKebab]

I suppose that might be a problem but wouldn't that be the case for the runner anyway? This way they could attack the horseman trying to block them but the blocker can't make openings on them or help the fight at all whereas before they'd have still been able to do so from horseback.

If you're being body blocked quite hard and spend time on attacking the blocker you'll just instantly die because you can't reduce openings from the people attacking you lol.

[Nightdawg]

You people don't understand that jorb will never remove it. The bandaid was our last resort, and you ruined any chance we had the moment you said "remove winter" lmao

Now they're onto us

I guess we won't have winter pvp next world either

[SnuggleSnail]

remove winter

While that would be cool, it's very obvious this is something that would never even be considered by them.

@jorbtar do you guys not feel a li'l embarrassed when people suggesting improvements to content imply the game would be better if content were just removed, but they're asking for bandaids because they think you're too stubborn to admit when something simply doesn't work?

Even the people who generally defend winter don't like it, they like their imagined version of what it'll be like after overhauls that won't happen. It's cringe.

You're down to remove siege because we sieged like 15 bases in a year, and maybe some of those people quit - but a visible 10-20% reduction in population on the tracker every winter is an acceptable loss? Just admit it's bad and yeet it.

[gravesmerch]

winter's change of pace is healthy for such autistic grind

[SnuggleSnail]

Although arguably winter is a nice excuse to not log in for a week.

winter's change of pace is healthy for such autistic grind

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"I like winter because it means I don't have to play the game" is also a common winter defense. IDK how anybody can interpret that as a compliment to winter instead of an insult to the game.

It's almost like winter fucking sucks or something