Give Storm of Swords the Jugular treatment

[DonVelD]

I agree with Nightdawg, and any non-bad actor does too. This should, also, be in the patch notes for new world if you decide to make this change. Please let us know.




To any bad actor: if you reply to me I won't argue with you because its a waste of time and jerking off is time better spent.

[overtyped]

Cause this world they started with UA and they can't respec.

No. Storm isn't pure MC. You want equal mc and equal unarmed because flex is a core part of it. My mc and unarmed were equal. Why would they need to respec?

[DonVelD]

[Nightdawg]

and any non-bad actor does too.

I really doubt there's any bad actor regarding this particular thing, at all. Just people genuinely believing something and providing their arguments.

Cause this world they started with UA and they can't respec.

No. Storm isn't pure MC. You want equal mc and equal unarmed because flex is a core part of it. My mc and unarmed were equal. Why would they need to respec?

Neither is b12 cleave thanks to combat equalisation. But some people can't afford having all of their stats equal.
You are a particular case, a fighter, where you don't need to spend so much LP on crafting stats. Most pure fighters spend points in both UA and MC.

Same reason b12 chipping meta exists, cleave opens a shitton of red too, if you have the MC for it. However, unlike SoS, cleave has a longer cooldown, a much higher IP requirement, and it only hits one target. But if you so much care about "not removing a large group of people from pvp", you would acknowledge that many players don't only do pvp in this game, but do other things too, so they can't spend all of their LP into MC and UA. They only do one to stay within the 2x margin with whatever they pick (b12, sword OR shield).

Next world, all of these people who picked UA , will now pick MC to stay within the 2x margin, cause it takes one button to hit up to 5 people, and deal up to 100% + 125% + 150% + 175% + 200%, damage with their sword, and opening 30 yellow on up to 5 people. Cleave only opens 25% red and does 150% damage. I KNOW the b12 has a higher base damage, but not up to 750% bonus in ONE hit, with a smaller cooldown.

Also remember that sting is also a blue opening move (that deals damage on its own opening too), and oppknock doesn't care about how much UA you have.

I still believe my change won't affect your cases and it will only make experienced players not have a one button braindead meta.

[Massa]

a meta shake up is good and it really is just aoe spam

[terechgracz]

Sos is fucking retarded. You poke too much thru armour it's retarded move, that's all. just make it full circle. Plus if there must be damage buff it should give most damage Vs enemy you attack not the furthest one in (what was the idea haver od this? Must ben some inverse manner)

[Nightdawg]

No need to reinvent the wheel, we've seen what happened when they halved all swords armor penetration or whatever happened therewhich had to be reverted.

Just some small adjustment enough to see if it improves the situation at least.

[terechgracz]

Yes I agree, should been changed probably to your numbers. Seems more fair.
Someone who thinks SOS as it is is good also would think playing against karthis with global range could be fun (probably).

[Dawidio123]

Even if players could use SoS better than us, I don't see players dropping cleave right now though. It's very strong for it's ability to instantly create kill pressure as soon as an enemy missteps. SoS has almost no kill pressure, it's all peel pressure.

The fact you don't know how to use SoS meta to kill people is only your fault. You can use other skills using the 80 yellow openings made by SoS spam. The OGs of SoS, as in snail+brits on second metorite used it properly and it was not even funny how strong it was.
And you mentioning that B12 is too expensive or w/e, literally just use sword+shield sting/opk deck as a support, you won't deal much damage but you will make a shitton of openings for the big dick high str b12 fighters to bonk.
If the issue is b12 being expensive then there is a solution to it. If the issue is you not wanting your zerg to have to learn to coordinate then yeah sos is the only solution.

Nightdawg changes still leave it in a very good spot for brainless zergs but just maybe won't be the only optimal way to play in ZvZ.

[overtyped]

Even if players could use SoS better than us, I don't see players dropping cleave right now though. It's very strong for it's ability to instantly create kill pressure as soon as an enemy missteps. SoS has almost no kill pressure, it's all peel pressure.

The fact you don't know how to use SoS meta to kill people is only your fault. You can use other skills using the 80 yellow openings made by SoS spam. The OGs of SoS, as in snail+brits on second metorite used it properly and it was not even funny how strong it was.
And you mentioning that B12 is too expensive or w/e, literally just use sword+shield sting/opk deck as a support, you won't deal much damage but you will make a shitton of openings for the big dick high str b12 fighters to bonk.
If the issue is b12 being expensive then there is a solution to it. If the issue is you not wanting your zerg to have to learn to coordinate then yeah sos is the only solution.

Nightdawg changes still leave it in a very good spot for brainless zergs but just maybe won't be the only optimal way to play in ZvZ.

You do know Kito cleave was just as braindead as flex storm.
Have b12 once again be the best in small numbers, best at ko's, best in large numbers, best at everything, then call it a day? Nah.

Storm isn't even that good in 1v1's or 2v2s. kito cleave outcompetes it. I have tested this. The only time storm shines is in large group fights, and it isn't particularly good at getting ko's or kills.

I don't give a shit about storm, but it keeps b12 from sitting on it's throne uncontested.
Nerf/get rid of storm, then remove b12. That's all i'll say.