Make Winter Great Gain

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Re: Make Winter Great Gain

Postby Nictos » Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:35 pm

+1 to longer winter
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Re: Make Winter Great Gain

Postby Sephiron » Sun Nov 17, 2024 2:53 am

will consider
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Re: Make Winter Great Gain

Postby Granny » Sun Nov 17, 2024 12:32 pm

No. Winter is fine as is. I would rather have no winter at all, but since it is here - the shortened period works better than the old one. I am not really sure why it was implemented. It functions as a pause in the game. Just check how the acitvity goes down during it. Developers forcing a gaming break on their gamers? Weird concept.


As for Mound beds: I find those are the best of both worlds. if you enjoy winter, you have the choice to not build those. I detest winter and can choose to build and enjoy my farm still. I would otherwise not bother to log on for winter, nor pay to play.
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Re: Make Winter Great Gain

Postby Reiber » Sun Nov 17, 2024 2:38 pm

Granny wrote:No. Winter is fine as is. I would rather have no winter at all, but since it is here - the shortened period works better than the old one. I am not really sure why it was implemented. It functions as a pause in the game. Just check how the acitvity goes down during it. Developers forcing a gaming break on their gamers? Weird concept.


As for Mound beds: I find those are the best of both worlds. if you enjoy winter, you have the choice to not build those. I detest winter and can choose to build and enjoy my farm still. I would otherwise not bother to log on for winter, nor pay to play.



thats the point, winter is compleatly opt out for farmers currently, so there is no reason to complain about it anymore from your average player.
at this point the only ones still complaining about winter, are pvp players who are angery, that their variable speed script, and bunny slippers dont allow them to nodif chase intermediate noobs anymore.

whereas the players that think winter is cool, and has nice curios to pick up, since they dont outscale it with their abacus production or whatever yet, have 1-2 days of actual winter, where rivers are frozen over,
with 4-5 days , where its just fall , but without mushrooms or bears, and there is no snow yet, so no winter curios either.

the existance of moundbeds, should just make longer winters a non issue, as the people wo are actually affected by not b eing able to play (farmers and treeplanters) just dont have winter.
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Re: Make Winter Great Gain

Postby SnuggleSnail » Sun Nov 17, 2024 3:20 pm

I feel like the people who like winter don't even like it that much. For the people who hate winter it's game ruining. Even if the people who hate winter are a small minority (doubt), they're more important IMO

Please for the love of god make combat not unplayable in winter
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Re: Make Winter Great Gain

Postby Sevenless » Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:53 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:I feel like the people who like winter don't even like it that much. For the people who hate winter it's game ruining. Even if the people who hate winter are a small minority (doubt), they're more important IMO

Please for the love of god make combat not unplayable in winter


Agreed, and that's as someone who enjoys winter.
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Re: Make Winter Great Gain

Postby Reiber » Sun Nov 17, 2024 6:52 pm

oh nice, snail and his goons have found the winter discussion,
time for some well though out and sincere arguments.
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Re: Make Winter Great Gain

Postby Sephiron » Sun Nov 17, 2024 7:13 pm

Granny wrote:No. Winter is fine as is. I would rather have no winter at all, but since it is here - the shortened period works better than the old one. I am not really sure why it was implemented. It functions as a pause in the game. Just check how the acitvity goes down during it. Developers forcing a gaming break on their gamers? Weird concept.


As for Mound beds: I find those are the best of both worlds. if you enjoy winter, you have the choice to not build those. I detest winter and can choose to build and enjoy my farm still. I would otherwise not bother to log on for winter, nor pay to play.

It's shorter now because jorb/loftar recognized how bad it was in w14, and shortened the duration temporarily until they added a bunch more stuff to it. A bunch more stuff was added, but the duration was never extended again since then. I presume it was because they planned to add more stuff but got caught up in other things. IDK when you last played, but you can place warming objects down to melt snow and farm now.
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Re: Make Winter Great Gain

Postby Sevenless » Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:11 am

Sephiron wrote:
Granny wrote:No. Winter is fine as is. I would rather have no winter at all, but since it is here - the shortened period works better than the old one. I am not really sure why it was implemented. It functions as a pause in the game. Just check how the acitvity goes down during it. Developers forcing a gaming break on their gamers? Weird concept.


As for Mound beds: I find those are the best of both worlds. if you enjoy winter, you have the choice to not build those. I detest winter and can choose to build and enjoy my farm still. I would otherwise not bother to log on for winter, nor pay to play.

It's shorter now because jorb/loftar recognized how bad it was in w14, and shortened the duration temporarily until they added a bunch more stuff to it. A bunch more stuff was added, but the duration was never extended again since then. I presume it was because they planned to add more stuff but got caught up in other things. IDK when you last played, but you can place warming objects down to melt snow and farm now.


To be fair, I still don't think winter is as rich as the other seasons. But spring is also a bad offender, it's like winter but without the fun you can have with snow.
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Re: Make Winter Great Gain

Postby Selles » Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:09 pm

If bear dens (or small dungeons like badgers) appear in winter, and winter stoats were somewhere else besides those couple of biomes where they are now - I would be glad to have winter extended by 2 times, so +1

Maybe it would be good to take a few days away from spring and give them to winter?
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