buff ranger cape and ranger boots

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Re: buff ranger cape and ranger boots

Postby Sevenless » Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:39 am

The_Lich_King wrote:apparently i have been undervaluing stealth : O


No one pumps PER as part of their standard fighter set, but everyone pumps INT. So it's really easy to pump enough stealth that no standard fighter can see your scents. Meanwhile trying to be able to see those scents on your fighter requires adding an entire extra set of foods to your tablegrind and slows down all your other stats.

There are the occasional hipsters who pump PER to see stuff, but they're rare enough that it's well worth dropping the LP into stealth casually. At 300 int, 100 stealth is pretty cheap. That gives you a stealth score of 30k.
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Re: buff ranger cape and ranger boots

Postby yym331 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:51 am

PER should be adjusted to increase bow damage, similar to how STR works for Ua
Currently, high PER allows you to bypass an opponent's AGI-based damage reduction, but that only applies to PvP and is entirely meaningless in PvE.
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Re: buff ranger cape and ranger boots

Postby The_Lich_King » Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:25 pm

yym331 wrote:PER should be adjusted to increase bow damage, similar to how STR works for Ua
Currently, high PER allows you to bypass an opponent's AGI-based damage reduction, but that only applies to PvP and is entirely meaningless in PvE.



Straight up agreed there. Make Damage * MM increase ranged damage. Might help out ranged to the point its used.
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Re: buff ranger cape and ranger boots

Postby azrid » Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:30 pm

you could also make full ranger set have a set effect of always seeing scents
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Re: buff ranger cape and ranger boots

Postby The_Lich_King » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:19 pm

azrid wrote:you could also make full ranger set have a set effect of always seeing scents


This would be more true to its original design but I don't want to see this kind of change because ranger style gameplay is basically dead so this wouldn't really be used... now if Nidbanes were fixed then this kind of buff would be meaningful but there is no good way to fix them without going back to the nidbane scent farm apocalypse of old.
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Re: buff ranger cape and ranger boots

Postby azrid » Sun Dec 15, 2024 11:14 pm

The_Lich_King wrote:
azrid wrote:you could also make full ranger set have a set effect of always seeing scents


This would be more true to its original design but I don't want to see this kind of change because ranger style gameplay is basically dead so this wouldn't really be used... now if Nidbanes were fixed then this kind of buff would be meaningful but there is no good way to fix them without going back to the nidbane scent farm apocalypse of old.

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