winter sux 4 combat

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Re: winter sux 4 combat

Postby Reiber » Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:54 pm

MightySheep wrote:Sled/ski pvp is definitely the most cancer pvp possible, worse than the SoS meta even. 1 thing that always annoyed me most about winter is the transition period (2nd most is the map tiles). If you going to make it a sled/ski thing then just make it a sled/ski thing within a day. I dont want to get cockblocked by the first river I see or random patches of grass. Until its all snow/ice its unplayable because you cant use boat or sled. I know it got improved but Im pretty sure it still too slow.


pvp aside, thats the worst about current winter.
there are only 48 hours with full winter. but you start getting bogged down in a patchy snow/mud area, with rivers that just have enough ice to prevent boats, but are not crossable for 5 days before and after that.
the transition fucking up things for longer than winter, is the worst thing about winter.
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Re: winter sux 4 combat

Postby SnuggleSnail » Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:59 pm

mulamishne wrote:+1, but I also swear they said they fixed the minimap thing already? But also I feel like it was said to be fixed several times already.


I could be wrong, but I think their fix was just aimed at people annoyed their map was covered in snow skidmarks after winter. It just doesn't update winter tiles now if you're going through already explored tiles, which is actively bad since it means you have no information at all about your surroundings. If you're tryharding winter PVP you probably want to delete your map every winter start so you can actually see shit.
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Re: winter sux 4 combat

Postby DDDsDD999 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:38 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:either you get to a safepali, win the fight, or die (and I mean DIE because you're gonna fucking starve to death or be forced to stop move and get Mrage max cleaved because there is no escape)

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Re: winter sux 4 combat

Postby guterpop » Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:15 am

"It's (situationally) practically impossible to escape - there are no speedbuffs, and no critters to click because that doesn't work with vehicles"
damn snail your right! We should remove this awful mechanic and make it so you don't get speed buffs during any season so running is more skill and luck and not stupid "Did I do the right credo? Do I have the special shoes!"
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Re: winter sux 4 combat

Postby Dawidio123 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:50 am

Okay sure w/e fix that, and then go back to my idea of making winter 30 days long.
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Re: winter sux 4 combat

Postby The_Lich_King » Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:55 am

guterpop wrote:"It's (situationally) practically impossible to escape - there are no speedbuffs, and no critters to click because that doesn't work with vehicles"
damn snail your right! We should remove this awful mechanic and make it so you don't get speed buffs during any season so running is more skill and luck and not stupid "Did I do the right credo? Do I have the special shoes!"


Realist shit right there... end the rabbit shoe meta
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Re: winter sux 4 combat

Postby DonVelD » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:34 am

guterpop wrote:"It's (situationally) practically impossible to escape - there are no speedbuffs, and no critters to click because that doesn't work with vehicles"
damn snail your right! We should remove this awful mechanic and make it so you don't get speed buffs during any season so running is more skill and luck and not stupid "Did I do the right credo? Do I have the special shoes!"

was that supposed to be an own? didn't feel like one

anyway +1
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Re: winter sux 4 combat

Postby SnuggleSnail » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:39 am

Across all fraction groups there were:
Fights during winter: 0
Ganks during winter: 2
Deaths during winter: 2
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Re: winter sux 4 combat

Postby noindyfikator » Sat Dec 28, 2024 12:27 pm

make winter longer, like summer. We get w17 faster
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Re: winter sux 4 combat

Postby SnuggleSnail » Wed Feb 26, 2025 2:09 am

I spent 10 minutes thinking about it and the last big fight I know of to happen in winter was a meteor fight in 2019 or 2020, and it wasn't rly a fight one side just showed up by knarr and noped out before anything even happened

the content being so bad people won't even touch it to dissect why it's bad for over half a decade is pretty next level lol
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