Simple combat changes to fix most cheese and random murders

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Re: Simple combat changes to fix most cheese and random murd

Postby linkfanpc » Sun Dec 28, 2025 8:50 pm

Sugram wrote:Max movement speed while in combat AND with weapon equipped is walking (2).


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Re: Simple combat changes to fix most cheese and random murd

Postby Dawidio123 » Sun Dec 28, 2025 9:09 pm

Account made in 2025 -> Here is how to fix combat and pvp and everything. Post it on your main scum.
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Re: Simple combat changes to fix most cheese and random murd

Postby Halbertz » Sun Dec 28, 2025 9:10 pm

I don't think I'll have time to read anything dumber this year. Thank you OP.
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Re: Simple combat changes to fix most cheese and random murd

Postby Sugram » Sun Dec 28, 2025 9:16 pm

Please stay on topic of hunting cheese. Helpful input would be how you would cheese animals given these changes so the ideas could be iterated on.
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Re: Simple combat changes to fix most cheese and random murd

Postby Halbertz » Sun Dec 28, 2025 9:30 pm

What I can clearly see from your post, that you have victim mindset towards other players. With most of the changes you are introducing, seems like victim complex towards animals is here too. So I guess this is just some kinky topic, containg dog whistle to other weird guys you probalbly meet in game. Something like vore fetish or idk. That also explains new account.
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Re: Simple combat changes to fix most cheese and random murd

Postby Sugram » Mon Dec 29, 2025 12:43 am

Halbertz wrote:What I can clearly see from your post, that you have victim mindset towards other players. With most of the changes you are introducing, seems like victim complex towards animals is here too. So I guess this is just some kinky topic, containg dog whistle to other weird guys you probalbly meet in game. Something like vore fetish or idk. That also explains new account.


Personal insults do not contribute to the topic. Wish we had a moderator to clean such things up.
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Re: Simple combat changes to fix most cheese and random murd

Postby Luno » Mon Dec 29, 2025 1:02 am

Sugram wrote:All animals always use a dodge move while their target is not in range to be hit with a melee attack. (I.e player is out of range or hiding in a cave)
Retreating animal will not turn hostile again if the "Attack!" skill is used on them.

I like this, i always thought that this should be the case.
Everything feels incredibly retarded, or just pointless.
Tell me how one can even kill a whale with the suggestions you gave?
Are we supposed to whale with bows and spears from now on?
I think hunting big animals like whales and mammoths should require hunting mechanics tailored specifically towards them, but ur suggestions are just not it.
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Re: Simple combat changes to fix most cheese and random murd

Postby springyb » Mon Dec 29, 2025 1:13 am

Sugram wrote:Please stay on topic of hunting cheese.


It's actually kind of hard to find because it's a rare spawn but if you're hunting for cheese there's usually some in rat dungeons or abandoned bases. Keep at it lil buddy
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Re: Simple combat changes to fix most cheese and random murd

Postby Sugram » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:04 am

Luno wrote:
Sugram wrote:All animals always use a dodge move while their target is not in range to be hit with a melee attack. (I.e player is out of range or hiding in a cave)
Retreating animal will not turn hostile again if the "Attack!" skill is used on them.

I like this, i always thought that this should be the case.
Everything feels incredibly retarded, or just pointless.
Tell me how one can even kill a whale with the suggestions you gave?
Are we supposed to whale with bows and spears from now on?
I think hunting big animals like whales and mammoths should require hunting mechanics tailored specifically towards them, but ur suggestions are just not it.


There can never be any tailored mechanics when cheese exists. Removing the cheese is the first step. Having special whaling weapons would be cool, but who would care about the mechanics if you can cheese it like a boar with larger hp.

I wouldn't worry too much about players being able to defeat a whale with bows and throwing spears. If it can be damaged then it will be killed. Perhaps it would just no longer be soloed on the first weeks of the world.
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Re: Simple combat changes to fix most cheese and random murd

Postby Massa » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:31 am

wow yet another guy who thinks we need to fist fight moose
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