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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby linkfanpc » Tue May 05, 2026 8:53 pm

i cannot believe any of you are actually discussing this. even a single extra tile on the study window would be catastrophic for the balancing of curios and studies, and inherently favors the stronger, which the game already does too much to some arguable extent.

the idea of having a FUCKING 10x10 STUDY WINDOW which would allow you to study every real curio in the game creating probably the most disgustingly unfun necessary daily grind imaginable of having to fill every single slot every day to stay competitive AND creating the most real need of actual honest-to-loftar botting the game has ever seen is so insanely stupid and shortsighted i honestly think this might be the single stupidest idea anyone legitimately put any thought into i've ever read on this forum.

anyone who looks at this and responds with anything more than a scoff is inadvertently proving they've never gotten past sprucecap level if even played the game at all. (further proven by the fact you think 300, 200, even 100 INT is a lot)

this would actually be the most harmful change ever done to the game and anyone who has actually played it would understand why.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby Halbertz » Tue May 05, 2026 9:50 pm

linkfanpc wrote:anyone who looks at this and responds with anything more than a scoff is inadvertently proving they've never gotten past sprucecap level if even played the game at all. (further proven by the fact you think 300, 200, even 100 INT is a lot)

That's why we can't have good stuff. The C&I section is full of good ideas, but the entire section is overflowing with hundreds of threads from people who have played 1-2 worlds at the most basic level and decided they need to improve the game.
Don't get me wrong - I'm not advocating for gatekeeping, so called veterans are morons too. From personal experience, I can say that the game mechanics are so confusing and complex that to be an expert in anything, you need a little more than a wooden cabin and level 3 of the mine. A good example of this is siege: even the so-called strongest faction and winners of three worlds in a row are forced to invite an outside expert to avoid being humiliated by the siege mechanics that these Swedes put to the game.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby azrid » Wed May 06, 2026 8:02 am

Halbertz wrote:That's why we can't have good stuff. The C&I section is full of good ideas, but the entire section is overflowing with hundreds of threads from people who have played 1-2 worlds at the most basic level and decided they need to improve the game.

Its our job as veterans to shepherd these new players and tell them "not this one" when they post a bad idea.
Too bad most veteran players have left our vibrant forum community.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby Girth » Wed May 06, 2026 1:39 pm

this is a terrible idea because all it does is make another exponential growth difference for sweat v hermit.

im 75% sure that no one levels up bots but this change would also incentivize creating every curio. ie - one more thing that would get automated.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby serVar161 » Wed May 06, 2026 2:39 pm

azrid wrote:
Halbertz wrote:That's why we can't have good stuff. The C&I section is full of good ideas, but the entire section is overflowing with hundreds of threads from people who have played 1-2 worlds at the most basic level and decided they need to improve the game.

Its our job as veterans to shepherd these new players and tell them "not this one" when they post a bad idea.
Too bad most veteran players have left our vibrant forum community.


It would be nice if they also explained why. Simply saying "It's a bad idea" isn't very informative and comes across as a personal opinion rather than a reasoned objection.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby serVar161 » Wed May 06, 2026 2:57 pm

The idea as proposed is unbalanced, but the idea of ​​increasing the research window size as a reward for reaching a certain attribute value - why not?

Even one slot would have a significant impact. Yes. That's why I proposed a variant where one slot would be added for reaching 100, 300, 600, or 1000 Intelligence.
And if we replace Intelligence, which everyone is leveling, with a more logical Lore, it would be even more balanced. Anyone could level it to 100 to get +1 slot, and everyone would be equal in that regard. Leveling it up to 300 wouldn't be a problem either, if desired. 600 and 1000 are possible, but it would take a long time for it to pay off.

If Lore isn't an option, Psychic would be an option.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby azrid » Wed May 06, 2026 3:04 pm

Since the whole idea is to reward people with higher intelligence we should in stead rebalance some curios to have much higher weight and learning points.
This way you don't put a burden on players having to craft an endless variety of curios.
My idea is much simpler to achieve and way more balanced.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby serVar161 » Wed May 06, 2026 3:46 pm

Your idea of ​​increasing the weight of high-weight items to encourage further Intelligence development sounds logical, but I think the main idea behind this proposal is to increase the number of research slots. This is clearly evident from the additional proposal regarding gilding of inventory and bags. And it's simply tied to Intelligence.
But it can be replaced with any other attribute without losing its meaning. It's just that if it were Strength, it would be strange. Intelligence seems the most logical at first glance.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby r0ck4ev3r » Thu May 07, 2026 2:43 am

There is no need for more space in your head to study items. /thread
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby serVar161 » Thu May 07, 2026 1:45 pm

Why isn't it necessary?
If not an additional 100-400 slots, but 1-4.

Most will have the same number of additional slots – 1-2. 3 is also "generally available" but more challenging. And 4 is a challenge.

Considering that "Blood and Bonds" usually takes up 1-2 slots, adding additional slots for research that compensate for this and encourage attribute or stat progression – with the right mechanics – will appeal to most.
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