Too much slime

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Re: Too much slime

Postby LostJustice » Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:40 pm

Azird, hate to break it to you but the slimes didn’t change any aspect of our spiral. We still spiral same rate and next world we will still spiral same rate and tbh we might even out spiral majority of the hermits and other players since they won’t know how to deal with slimes which causes more of a problem between faction and small villages/hermit gap. Slimes are annoying mechanic for people who just want to mine and even if they cause a problem, I just make more characters and swap them out. Slimes prevent botting which some groups did for mining and they did help solve the issue, but now they are highly unbalanced and could be balanced while preventing botting. There is way too much variation in spawn rates and tbh too much variation in the amount. Things shouldn’t be hard because they are spamming numbers and breaking the mine supports.

Also I usually don’t mine on 5 and before slimes still didn’t mine on 5. I usually mines 3-4 because there is no real point of 5 when tunneling. Also iron is iron, regardless if it Black ore, bloodstone, ect.
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Re: Too much slime

Postby wonder-ass » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:37 pm

LostJustice wrote:Azird, hate to break it to you but the slimes didn’t change any aspect of our spiral. We still spiral same rate and next world we will still spiral same rate and tbh we might even out spiral majority of the hermits and other players since they won’t know how to deal with slimes which causes more of a problem between faction and small villages/hermit gap. Slimes are annoying mechanic for people who just want to mine and even if they cause a problem, I just make more characters and swap them out. Slimes prevent botting which some groups did for mining and they did help solve the issue, but now they are highly unbalanced and could be balanced while preventing botting. There is way too much variation in spawn rates and tbh too much variation in the amount. Things shouldn’t be hard because they are spamming numbers and breaking the mine supports.

Also I usually don’t mine on 5 and before slimes still didn’t mine on 5. I usually mines 3-4 because there is no real point of 5 when tunneling. Also iron is iron, regardless if it Black ore, bloodstone, ect.


blood usually gives me around 4/5 average while black ore gives me around 7/8 average. if you have a small amount of smelters its better to use black.
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Re: Too much slime

Postby LostJustice » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:05 am

wonder-ass wrote:
LostJustice wrote:Azird, hate to break it to you but the slimes didn’t change any aspect of our spiral. We still spiral same rate and next world we will still spiral same rate and tbh we might even out spiral majority of the hermits and other players since they won’t know how to deal with slimes which causes more of a problem between faction and small villages/hermit gap. Slimes are annoying mechanic for people who just want to mine and even if they cause a problem, I just make more characters and swap them out. Slimes prevent botting which some groups did for mining and they did help solve the issue, but now they are highly unbalanced and could be balanced while preventing botting. There is way too much variation in spawn rates and tbh too much variation in the amount. Things shouldn’t be hard because they are spamming numbers and breaking the mine supports.

Also I usually don’t mine on 5 and before slimes still didn’t mine on 5. I usually mines 3-4 because there is no real point of 5 when tunneling. Also iron is iron, regardless if it Black ore, bloodstone, ect.


blood usually gives me around 4/5 average while black ore gives me around 7/8 average. if you have a small amount of smelters its better to use black.


I have a lot of smelters and I even smelt iron ochre.
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Re: Too much slime

Postby azrid » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:46 pm

No reason to concern yourself with hermits the only way they get close to top quality is trading not spiraling themselves.
LostJustice wrote:Azird, hate to break it to you but the slimes didn’t change any aspect of our spiral.

That is why I said originally deeper levels should be reviewed and made harder.
LostJustice wrote:I just make more characters and swap them out.

I know why you are crying now thanks for the insight.
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Re: Too much slime

Postby MagicManICT » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:01 pm

azrid wrote:No reason to concern yourself with hermits the only way they get close to top quality is trading not spiraling themselves.


It's been a while since I made a deep dive into production and quality spiraling. Believe me when I say it is possible for hermits to keep up if they have enough time on their hands.
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Re: Too much slime

Postby azrid » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:44 pm

No doubt there are exceptional people.
It will be more time efficient to buy nice tools for us normies.
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Re: Too much slime

Postby MagicManICT » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:02 pm

azrid wrote:No doubt there are exceptional people.
It will be more time efficient to buy nice tools for us normies.

Well, you go a period without having a real job... you seem to find yourself with a lot of time on your hands.
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Re: Too much slime

Postby LostJustice » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:40 pm

azrid wrote:No reason to concern yourself with hermits the only way they get close to top quality is trading not spiraling themselves.
LostJustice wrote:Azird, hate to break it to you but the slimes didn’t change any aspect of our spiral.

That is why I said originally deeper levels should be reviewed and made harder.
LostJustice wrote:I just make more characters and swap them out.

I know why you are crying now thanks for the insight.


Hermits make up majority of hafen so no, we do have to consider and think about hermits.

Second I don’t mine with alts but if the world reset today that is just what I do would do to get around the mechanic and problem is, hermits would not have the resources or time to do that and it seems you are too stubborn to consider others and highly doubt you do any sort of mining to even consider this topic enough.
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Re: Too much slime

Postby LostJustice » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:41 pm

MagicManICT wrote:
azrid wrote:No doubt there are exceptional people.
It will be more time efficient to buy nice tools for us normies.

Well, you go a period without having a real job... you seem to find yourself with a lot of time on your hands.


Completely agree with MagicManiCT.
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Re: Too much slime

Postby azrid » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:16 pm

I think you missed the point about hermits and good quality tools.
Also I am a miner hermit.
Even so mining is not so complex that someone who isn't a miner would have a hard time grasping the mechanics.
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