99% of PVP/permadeath woes are an onboarding issue

[Regulus2424]

Haven has a very unusual stance on cheating and for some reason J&L aren't very transparent about it.

they are as transparent as the empty space in place where their spines used to be

[magnet]

>"JORB NEVER READS THE FORUMS"
>for once jorb opens and engages the forums a little bit
>"DEVS ARE SPINELESS IT DOESNT EVEN MATTER IF THEY READ THE FORUMS"

I wouldn't want to talk to you motherfuckers either LMAO

[Regulus2424]

my bad, next time I will just vomit up some AI slop and make an attempt to copy Jorb's manner of speaking

[magnet]

cant call it slop if the prompt begins with jorb's V neck

[Grumpkin]

Computer, give me a print out of Jorb smiling.

[MarcusXDead]

I fundamentally agree with this. The game needs PvP.

May I ask for your reasoning from a dev perspective? In addition to "dying is fun" part?

[wolf1000wolf]

I fundamentally agree with this. The game needs PvP.

May I ask for your reasoning from a dev perspective? In addition to "dying is fun" part?

Because the devs prefer the theoretical philosophical vision over the practical real world application.

They would rather keep a system that is *right* in theory but fails its players in application.

The off-stated argument that having no PvP would just result in no recourse to griefers is misleading because right now, being killed/chased around IS the griefing. And there is no practical recourse to that anyways.

The old analogy that the devs made of the stupid "air is free" game is disingenuous because they're equating "being really annoyed for a short period of time" with "losing tens or hundreds of hours of game time progress".