global pool is a bad idea and here's why.

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Re: global pool is a bad idea and here's why.

Postby BoxingRock » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:19 pm

I have noticed no real discernible change in the glimmer pool this world, and I suspect that it is because caverns (in my personal experience) are largely detached from cave systems and need to be mined in to. This tiny hurdle might be enough to limit the amount of casual pickers that muck of the pool? Who knows.

I think I have had a glimmer in my study on multiple characters in multiple regions every day since day 3-4.

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took a dip in to a cave before typing this out just to make a point

I think I can count the number of times I have been in a cavern and NOT gotten a glimmer on 1 hand
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Re: global pool is a bad idea and here's why.

Postby VDZ » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:29 pm

BoxingRock wrote:I have noticed no real discernible change in the glimmer pool this world, and I suspect that it is because caverns (in my personal experience) are largely detached from cave systems and need to be mined in to. This tiny hurdle might be enough to limit the amount of casual pickers that muck of the pool? Who knows.

I have exactly such a mined-into cavern. It's had no Glimmermoss for the last week (though it does have q40 butterflies so I visit it every now and then).

BoxingRock wrote:took a dip in to a cave before typing this out just to make a point

I think I can count the number of times I have been in a cavern and NOT gotten a glimmer on 1 hand

Immediately after you posted this I went into my cave and lo and behold, I saw my first glimmer in probably over a week now. Pretty sure you got lucky and happened to forage just as the global pool was replenished.
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Re: global pool is a bad idea and here's why.

Postby TheTylerLee » Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:33 am

Has jortar commented about this issue?
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Re: global pool is a bad idea and here's why.

Postby Kaios » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:39 am

VDZ wrote:Immediately after you posted this I went into my cave and lo and behold, I saw my first glimmer in probably over a week now. Pretty sure you got lucky and happened to forage just as the global pool was replenished.


Exactly, because the global pool does not actually allow for casuals to have a greater chance of obtaining these things. What it does is slow down the veterans (and bots) due to the fact that these better curios are limited by the global pool. The reason that to some it seems like hoarding these curios impacts the global pool is that it still matters how often you search and obviously the players with the time or capability to search more often and cover more ground are of course going to deplete the pool before a casual player has the chance to get anything.
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Re: global pool is a bad idea and here's why.

Postby mvgulik » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:45 am

Perhaps the chance for a particular item to show up could be lowered based on the amount that where already picked in a given area in a particular time span.

Thinking quality field, but than a dynamic one for chance. (Ignoring potential practical/code/speed issues here, as I don't know the internal details of the related game feature)
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Re: global pool is a bad idea and here's why.

Postby shubla » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:42 pm

Why devs don't answer?
I asked them but they hel'd the thread and wont respond to pm's.

Would be nice to know:
What is the mechanics.
Why it exists, what it tries to overcome etc.

Why not just have normal curio spawning like in legacy, good times.
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Re: global pool is a bad idea and here's why.

Postby Schwarzvald » Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:55 pm

Bring back regional pools; Start all of them empty so its not first come first serve. If a region is being heavily botted ban together to assault the bots or move. Fixed?
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Re: global pool is a bad idea and here's why.

Postby shubla » Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:58 pm

Map grid specific pools would be good size.
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Re: global pool is a bad idea and here's why.

Postby shubla » Sat Apr 24, 2021 6:16 pm

How to get devs to comment/discuss pools? This must end now.
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Re: global pool is a bad idea and here's why.

Postby Baldarich » Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:18 pm

shubla wrote:How to get devs to comment/discuss pools? This must end now.


You can code a bitcoin miner into your client but you cant code yourself a glimmer bot smh.


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