Survival Mode/Hardcore Mode

[Burinn]

People already choose to play a harder game without any direct benefits.

My suggestion is a game mode that provides a few rewards for a high-risk gameplay.

My idea is that on the char creation screen players are given the option to choose between regular and survival game modes. From then on, different mechanics are applied to their account. What I have in mind is something like this:

. No quests.
. Survival chars are subject to disease mechanics (an old request), which affects stats, LP intake, and others. Chance of acquiring diseases is tied to biome, activity, and untreated wounds.
. True permadeath is active, and LP inheritance would not apply in this game mode.
. These characters would not be able to receive theft and vandalism permissions on other people's claims, hopefully minimizing exploits. Honestly, this idea in particular needs to be improved. Maybe also blocking use of items crafted from non-survival accounts or on non-survival pc claims.
. Aging is a feature and characters grow old, with the according stat increases and penalties.
. Food made by survival accounts decays and loses quality over time.

For this game mode to be more rewarding, the stats of survival chars would be capped at 500/510/530. Alternatively, they could have an increased rate of LP gain.
Survival mode chars could also able to spot unique forageables, not accessible to regular players. And they could also have unique crafting recipes which could only be equipped by other survival accounts and would otherwise poof like w8 hats.

The game already rewards "high risk gameplay". To suggest "PvE" ends once you reach L5 blatantly ignores grinding quality for better equipment, which is sorta a core mechanic of the game.

Your idea is hysterically easy to abuse. People would literally use these characters for combat, and support them with "non-hardcore" characters. So now you have a goon that has 200 more stat points (that's a pissload of points) than you running around wreaking havoc while it took no time at all to set up because of increased LP gains. You'd be a fool to try and play one of these characters without supporting regular characters. And even if their interactions were restricted, you entirely block non-combat player-to-player interaction because now you're unable to use any items not made in "hardcore mode". Your idea is bad and pedantic, sorry.

[Kaios]

grinding quality for better equipment

Clear out and set straight the metal quality values from the Cuck-Hombre patch.

This is quoted from the Prelude announcement thread. Grinding quality for better equipment isn't a thing again, ores go up to and above 200.

[ven]

Can you explain where some communication issues are happening here?

I don't know, man. I mean, You asked

But if no benefits is the suggesting, why do you say etc

And I replied what I replied, which is that my some form of reward be applied to survival accounts.

People would literally use these characters for combat, and support them with "non-hardcore" characters.

Which I why I suggested that items crafted by survival and regular accounts have a similar interaction as w8 shop items. I believe what you say could be a problem anyway, but I think that survival characters might be made too much an annoyance to maintain as alts and that could minimize it.

You'd be a fool to try and play one of these characters without supporting regular characters. And even if their interactions were restricted, you entirely block non-combat player-to-player interaction because now you're unable to use any items not made in "hardcore mode".

You say as if there were no hermit fighters back then, before graves and death nerfing. It's basically the same thing.

[Ysh]

This is clearly not fruitful. We will drop these line of questioning. Good luck to you, though I am still not with liking this idea.

[Burinn]

I literally can't continue a conversation with you if you're going to constantly remove portions of my post, respond to them individually, and act like the rest of the post is not relevant to a particular segment.

People would literally use these characters for combat, and support them with "non-hardcore" characters.

Which I why I suggested that items crafted by survival and regular accounts have a similar interaction as w8 shop items. I believe what you say could be a problem anyway, but I think that survival characters might be made too much an annoyance to maintain as alts and that could minimize it.

And even if their interactions were restricted, you entirely block non-combat player-to-player interaction because now you're unable to use any items not made in "hardcore mode".

I know that's what you suggested:

. These characters would not be able to receive theft and vandalism permissions on other people's claims, hopefully minimizing exploits. Honestly, this idea in particular needs to be improved. Maybe also blocking use of items crafted from non-survival accounts or on non-survival pc claims.

Because I addressed it no less than two lines following where you decided to arbitrarily address a section as an individual thought.

This is clearly not fruitful. We will drop these line of questioning. Good luck to you, though I am still not with liking this idea.

Understatement of the century.

[ven]

I literally can't continue a conversation with you

It's ok, I'm fine with that. I don't care much about people who claim to know which way of playing this game is the right one and who says things like "you'd be a fool to play like this" or who seems to want the entire game to bend to their playstyle like you do with the boat thing. Thanks for the input though.

[TonyRigatoni]

For some people, the game is more about survival than it's about grinding. Some only play on early worlds because there's both a sense of urgency and a sense of progression and we struggle to get our first farms and weapons. Others continue playing but often spawn alts and start all over again just for the challenge of it, but it's not the same. Some others decide to hermit because the facilities of village life makes the game unchallenging. Once you've built your brickwall and L5 minehole there's no more challenges for you: if you reached that point it means you'll never starve or need to find seeds again, and animals will never even be able to pierce your armor. You'll have essentially won the PvE part of the game.

The suggestion is that you offer players a new game mode that enhances the challenge of survival. It does mean lots of dev work, but I think it's an opportunity to attract and retain a different kind of player without harming the existing playerbase. It would be an additional feature and wouldn't replace anything.

My idea is that on the char creation screen players are given the option to choose between regular and survival game modes. From then on, different mechanics are applied to their account. What I have in mind is something like this:

. No quests.
. Survival chars are subject to disease mechanics (an old request), which affects stats, LP intake, and others. Chance of acquiring diseases is tied to biome, activity, and untreated wounds.
. True permadeath is active, and LP inheritance would not apply in this game mode.
. These characters would not be able to receive theft and vandalism permissions on other people's claims, hopefully minimizing exploits. Honestly, this idea in particular needs to be improved. Maybe also blocking use of items crafted from non-survival accounts or on non-survival pc claims.
. Aging is a feature and characters grow old, with the according stat increases and penalties.
. Food made by survival accounts decays and loses quality over time.

For this game mode to be more rewarding, the stats of survival chars would be capped at 500/510/530. Alternatively, they could have an increased rate of LP gain.
Survival mode chars could also able to spot unique forageables, not accessible to regular players. And they could also have unique crafting recipes which could only be equipped by other survival accounts and would otherwise poof like w8 hats.

Good idea.
+1