Stop Talking About The End Game (Critique)

[Zeler]

I find it ironic that people crying about others wanting endgame activities are ones, that will never reach them. Also people wanting more permadeath are people whose villages could be built in 1 day and have toons with stats in 60s.

[shubla]

Also people wanting more permadeath are people whose villages could be built in 1 day and have toons with stats in 60s.

Why would anyone with high stat char want permadeath?

Everyone just wants mechanics to be pleasant for them personally. Raiders want more ways to kill people and make it easier etc.

[Lunarius_Haberdash]

I find it ironic that people crying about others wanting endgame activities are ones, that will never reach them. Also people wanting more permadeath are people whose villages could be built in 1 day and have toons with stats in 60s.

You're a foolish person if you believe thats who's talking about this. I've been here since world 3, my characters have certainly started higher than that, and we've definitely reached End Game content as you call it.

Why would we want this? Because it keeps the power structure in the game fluid and dynamic when giants can be toppled, and there is no ivory tower.

[LadyGoo]

I find it ironic that people crying about others wanting endgame activities are ones, that will never reach them. Also people wanting more permadeath are people whose villages could be built in 1 day and have toons with stats in 60s.

You're a foolish person if you believe thats who's talking about this. I've been here since world 3, my characters have certainly started higher than that, and we've definitely reached End Game content as you call it.

Why would we want this? Because it keeps the power structure in the game fluid and dynamic when giants can be toppled, and there is no ivory tower.

Playing since W3 does not proof much
I have yet to see the giant projects you have made and put a lot of effort into maintaining it before agreeing with you. I mean, something far greater than giving noobs some gear and using some sort of coin system. A lot of villages do this, including the ones you call "barbarians".

[dageir]

All of these suggestions tell me you want to be playing a different game. Permadeath needs to be amplified in its totality (like it was at the beginning of Hafen) and recovery nerfed.

Well, in an ideal world there would be a hardcore permadeath without inheritance or whatever it is called.
In an ideal world threre would be one player per IP-adress.
We are not in an ideal world. Hardcore permadeath will make people reluctant to interact with other people.
Less action, less politics.
With an arbitrary stat cap of 100, it would be easier to create alts to go to war with. (And allow a bigger part of the player base to do it).
It would also make it possible to skill a character up in a matter of minutes/hours. All crimes should be default when
starting including murder, recognizing these traits are human nature. With a smaller map and scarce, but not to overpowered resources
the game would offer entertainment well beyond the weeks it takes to set up a proper village and discover most things.

[Lunarius_Haberdash]

All of these suggestions tell me you want to be playing a different game. Permadeath needs to be amplified in its totality (like it was at the beginning of Hafen) and recovery nerfed.

With an arbitrary stat cap of 100, it would be easier to create alts to go to war with. (And allow a bigger part of the player base to do it).

Then why have stats at all? Why not just give everyone the same base stats from the word 'go' and obviate the point of death altogether?

[ChildhoodObesity]

i think u need to realize that ppl want to have fun in this game and not fukn kill themselves irl, ladygoo is the only 1 making reasonable posts here tbh

[dageir]

All of these suggestions tell me you want to be playing a different game. Permadeath needs to be amplified in its totality (like it was at the beginning of Hafen) and recovery nerfed.

With an arbitrary stat cap of 100, it would be easier to create alts to go to war with. (And allow a bigger part of the player base to do it).

Then why have stats at all? Why not just give everyone the same base stats from the word 'go' and obviate the point of death altogether?

Well, yeah, but what to do with farming and cooking?