Alts go live !

[Potjeh]

An MMORTS is an interesting kind of game and one I wouldn't necessarily mind making, but Haven isn't it.

It may not be what you tried to make, but it's what you've made.

[Ysh]

We don't need to actively encourage or institutionalize alt usage. If anything, we should be moving in the opposite direction. An MMORTS is an interesting kind of game and one I wouldn't necessarily mind making, but Haven isn't it.

When can we expect Seatribe MMORTS announcement?

[Ardennesss]

That fact that it is the vision for this game to be an RPG rather than an RTS, quite simply.

You and Jorb need to sit down and have a conversation then, because you're sending very mixed messages. This game is currently Haven & Alts and has been for a decent amount of time. The credo system basically requires alts, so our village currently has a tailor alt, a blacksmith alt, a cook alt, a miner alt, and a pottery alt. I would love to discontinue the use of alts on this game, because it's just an additional part of the tedium (which is a feature.)

[Alitis]

Some people enjoy alts, I might be in the mood of doing some hunting or another day some mining, etc Its nice to have specialization, different skills, attributes, credo buffs, different gear...
Also gives people a reason to cooperate if they do not want to make each and every one of the options and be part of a village with distinct jobs.

All I started the post saying is this could be with little effort be working better for a single account ( and a hermit style ) that wants to use "specialts" ( since its already happening ).
There is no intention to distinct between game genres here, just a small idea for better alt functionality that was, but seems to have taken a lot of directions, lol

[sMartins]

Yeah, but if specializations would work as they should, where you actually cannot obtain everything the quality you want, economy will start to roll, cooperation between strangers, etc.. etc... what the game should be, not autistic underground bases with 1 player and 10 alts.

[infectedking3]

When do you close the Client Loftar? That's the real question .... they will just cry for a while and then forget it, and after that the game will be better for everyone.

Another example of retardation and how it tries to push more players away from the game :/

[sMartins]

Yeah, but it will gain more later on.

[Ardennesss]

Yeah, but it will gain more later on.

If you honestly think that forcing people to use the default client will increase the player base of this game you are certifiably retarded and I envy the kind of disability checks you must get every month to sit at home and write this kind of drivel.

[Granger]

When do you close the Client Loftar? That's the real question .... they will just cry for a while and then forget it, and after that the game will be better for everyone.

Another example of retardation and how it tries to push more players away from the game :/

Most people perceive the official client as explicitely bad only after having used a custom one for a little, before that the difference is missing. Now that people are used to custom clients... taking them away would be harsh.

But jorb and loftar should really use (a reasonably configured) Amber for a while (like for 50+ ingame hours, while actially using the QoL features like constant quality display, Q-pick, hand slots, mass move, ...), to realize (and get fed up with) at leat some of the crimes against humanity they commit with the official one.

sMartins has a point though, 'only official client' would level the playing field (for a while, till the usual suspects would have decompiled it to add their bots and skynet tactical maps). In case the official client wouldn't have the deficiencies it currently has... the idea could be something worth supporting, even if it would piss off some of the existing users.

[sMartins]

I couldn't explain it better than that.