Bot solutions : Salem's not allowed to do better than you

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Re: Bot solutions : Salem's not allowed to do better than yo

Postby Potjeh » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:56 am

Botting = regular people not wanting to play
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Re: Bot solutions : Salem's not allowed to do better than yo

Postby ctopolon4 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:03 am

1 botter can buy up to 100tokens per month. who cares if 100 not donating players are dropping.
every mmo have botters, nolifers, donaters, casuals... while ingame stuff are not selling with RMT, devs are happy
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Re: Bot solutions : Salem's not allowed to do better than yo

Postby Potjeh » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:28 am

Yeah because H&H is doing so great on population.
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Re: Bot solutions : Salem's not allowed to do better than yo

Postby SaltyCrate » Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:15 pm

Yet Another Pointless Thread About Botting
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Re: Bot solutions : Salem's not allowed to do better than yo

Postby Granger » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:11 pm

These topics have a point: nag the devs to do something about it (and they have been offered practical solutions that would achieve an end to widespread botting, a long time ago).
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Re: Bot solutions : Salem's not allowed to do better than yo

Postby ErdTod » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:43 am

I know it has been like that for years and years, i know these topics don't change anything, but I'd like to give my +1 for banning and fighting botting.

Without bots the progress wouldn't be as rapid, and worlds would stay a safer place for newcomers for longer times. Now if you start over in the old world, without botting you will never catch up with botters - and it's open pvp game, so I'm not starting over unless there's a new world.
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Re: Bot solutions : Salem's not allowed to do better than yo

Postby Lyrroth » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:53 am

ErdTod wrote:I know it has been like that for years and years, i know these topics don't change anything, but I'd like to give my +1 for banning and fighting botting.

Without bots the progress wouldn't be as rapid, and worlds would stay a safer place for newcomers for longer times. Now if you start over in the old world, without botting you will never catch up with botters - and it's open pvp game, so I'm not starting over unless there's a new world.


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Re: Bot solutions : Salem's not allowed to do better than yo

Postby iamahh » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:54 pm

ErdTod wrote:I know it has been like that for years and years, i know these topics don't change anything, but I'd like to give my +1 for banning and fighting botting.

Without bots the progress wouldn't be as rapid, and worlds would stay a safer place for newcomers for longer times. Now if you start over in the old world, without botting you will never catch up with botters - and it's open pvp game, so I'm not starting over unless there's a new world.


in my experience the older the world the safer it gets... early world is a noob massacre... in the first days, before setup my first palisade, i already had scents all over my claim
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Re: Bot solutions : Salem's not allowed to do better than yo

Postby julian12it » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:32 pm

Why is this thread back up again. In comparison to haven and Salem, they both roughly have the same player base and different "judgement" on the matter. If you're thinking that bots are why people stop playing because people get to "advanced", then you're wrong. I've noticed that those who keep bringing the topic of bots back are those who recently either joined or started playing again. Bots have been in haven for the longest time. The developers haven't done anything about it because they're busy on other stuff people keep bitching to them about. "Loftar when client rework, jorb when you implement this, omg!" Go under "Q&A" tab next to the big play button and read up on Game Development Questions.

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ctopolon4 wrote:
Lunarius_Haberdash wrote:Cite your sources.

botting = good Q = selling for tokens = $$$ to dev
botting = 40k charisma = 200kk LP per quest = bug report


This is false, you can easily just stop purchasing stuff with tokens. Not everything someone sells is with tokens, that's why markets like community fair have their own currency and people tend to sell their tokens there. Also, bots are not what is causing people to have 40k charisma, the world has been out for more than a year people are easily able to make enough cheese in numbers. When you are referring to questing, that's an issue with the game itself not bots.

ctopolon4 wrote:1 botter can buy up to 100tokens per month. who cares if 100 not donating players are dropping.
every mmo have botters, nolifers, donaters, casuals... while ingame stuff are not selling with RMT, devs are happy

Botters are not millionaires that are dumping their wallets into Loftar and Jorb's pockets just to buy tokens. Botters also don't have a bot they run that produces them "tokens". Read the shit you're saying dude it doesn't make any sense. If you're in denial of people trading ingame items with cashshop items then DON'T DO IT.
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Re: Bot solutions : Salem's not allowed to do better than yo

Postby jordancoles » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:55 pm

Botters are the ones who play the game the longest, honestly.
When the world is old and people are standing around looking for things to do, the botters press on and keep the CF stalls full and the qualities rising.

Casual fucks quit and then return months later to cry that they're behind, and then they wait until a world reset. Botters keep playing, keep paying subs, and keep the item grind moving forwards.

It's not ideal, but at this point you're not going to remove them and you all know that.
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