Stat caps, a good solution

[overtyped]

you only need to bot pepper or be super rich to buy loads of pepper. the rest you can just afk cheese farm.

how2becomebigboi

• buy good q cheese tubs to make curd
• buy trays
• buy milk/rennet
• afk cheese farm
• buy good table
• feast

you only start needing pepper around the 10k+ mark

ya, i plan to do cheese this world. I find that grind boring, but winning isn't always fun. Dungeoning to lvl would be pretty fun tho, or selling my wares for some stat containers, but the future is currently looking mass cheese.

[dageir]

If the returns are sufficiently diminished as one "levels up", we do not need a hard cap. Make it very slow once you reach 1000 in a stat or whatever.

[overtyped]

If the returns are sufficiently diminished as one "levels up", we do not need a hard cap. Make it very slow once you reach 1000 in a stat or whatever.

Good idea botters will just ramp up production and leave casuals in the dust.

[Necroliter]

Good idea botters will just ramp up production and leave casuals in the dust.

If we look at sqrt(X/10) example it will take 700 stats to increase effect from X30 to X40 (from 900 to 1600). So it will take some effort to get that extra 33% effect. It keeps increasing the further you go.
So if we assume player got 2500 stats it will take to 3600 to get that sweet sweet 20% increase.

Right now difference between 900 and 1600 is 78% in effect.

[overtyped]

Good idea botters will just ramp up production and leave casuals in the dust.

If we look at sqrt(X/10) example it will take 700 stats to increase effect from X30 to X40 (from 900 to 1600). So it will take some effort to get that extra 33% effect. It keeps increasing the further you go.
So if we assume player got 2500 stats it will take to 3600 to get that sweet sweet 20% increase.

Right now difference between 900 and 1600 is 78% in effect.

Not sure how that wouldnt just be making the game meaningless after a certain point of grinding.

[dageir]

The game IS meaningless.

[iamahh]

could work for a while, would create an "endgame" for groups

[Necroliter]

Good idea botters will just ramp up production and leave casuals in the dust.

If we look at sqrt(X/10) example it will take 700 stats to increase effect from X30 to X40 (from 900 to 1600). So it will take some effort to get that extra 33% effect. It keeps increasing the further you go.
So if we assume player got 2500 stats it will take to 3600 to get that sweet sweet 20% increase.

Right now difference between 900 and 1600 is 78% in effect.

Not sure how that wouldnt just be making the game meaningless after a certain point of grinding.

Well, first of all - you can grind and get more stats (compared to hard-cap on stats). Many peoples (especially one who like the grind as main driving force in HnH) like big number (look at idle games).
Second - there will be difference in 1% or so between player with 918 and 900 in certain stats. It`s not much, but it exists. More stats means bigger difference.
Third - each person can define their own cap after which they will stop progressing. If they encounter challenge (dungeon or stronger player) they can push to overcome their arbitrary stat-cap.

[overtyped]

would create an "endgame", dungeons would be highly disputed, and they are harder to bot

A bot that has an ai that can do a dungeon intelligentently and coordinates with others and doesn't proceed or accurately runs if it's too dangerous and fights in combat properly would be as hard to make as haven itself.

[Ozzy123]

I don't really like the idea of being forced to do dungeons to get higher stats, they are boring as fuck, I have done like 1 ever maybe