Mine Support Changes are Awful.

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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

Postby Mafious » Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:19 pm

azrid wrote:
shubla wrote:mining was already awfully tedious

Before you just selected a big area and tabbed out to watch a movie or something.

I didn't and looking at the mines i found in w10 i wasnt the only one chasing a vein between crappy stone. Not all of us use bots to play the game and most of the changes that fuck botters fuck casuals even more.
https://strawpoll.com/xh2d3zr2 if you give a fuck about mining vote on this. Make mining great again! Bring back old supports.
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

Postby DDDsDD999 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:13 pm

You need to change the mining mechanics then. Most people probably don't even know the minesweeper mechanics in mining. Should give us some way to mark the tiles besides individually checking each and every piece of cave dust you mine. I hope the cave ins are at least a lot rarer to compensate.
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

Postby azrid » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:26 pm

Mafious wrote:
azrid wrote:
shubla wrote:mining was already awfully tedious

Before you just selected a big area and tabbed out to watch a movie or something.

I didn't and looking at the mines i found in w10 i wasnt the only one chasing a vein between crappy stone. Not all of us use bots to play the game and most of the changes that fuck botters fuck casuals even more.

You know you can select area to mine in the official client?
Mining was only hard if you didnt know all the functions.
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

Postby Vigilance » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:29 pm

Looks like stone supports are also awful because this rock took this down to 26%. they suffer from the same shitty ratios (but the rock took it town to 73%, im tired and inverted)
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

Postby algeralith » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:33 pm

I think the change just needs to be reverted.
At the end of the day, jorb needs to realize that this is a game.
People do not need more frustrating mechanics added on top of an already painful experience.

You just start to lose the fun. Why be irritated in game when I can just go be irritated in real life.
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

Postby Mafious » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:36 pm

Vigilance wrote:Looks like stone supports are also awful because this rock took this down to 26%. they suffer from the same shitty ratios (but the rock took it town to 73%, im tired and inverted)

Did it damage other supports in the same area?
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

Postby Enjoyment_2 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:38 pm

So, If I supposed to play minesweaper no matter of do or not I have support, why would I bother to build one? to dig a couple of tiles before I start waste more than gain? looks like shit to me.
Maybe Jorb just afraid of all those ppl who want to reconstruct his awesome underground base from w10, so he made so noone can clear big enough area?
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

Postby Mafious » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:42 pm

You know you can select area to mine in the official client?
Mining was only hard if you didnt know all the functions.
i didn't said it was hard i said i didn't afk mined.
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

Postby Mafious » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:44 pm

Please stop making the game unfun its really grindy as it is i doesn't need to be a 100% accurate simulation of real life. If so make wildfires a thing and you will need to reset the world every 3 days.
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Re: Mine Support Changes are Awful.

Postby Fostik » Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:23 pm

jorb wrote:We can discuss the ratio, but in principle I think it's very reasonable that minsupports don't give you the ability to just mine away willy-nilly, paying zero attention to what crazy caveins you're digging into. Build more supports if you want to be more careless.


Taking a care about your mine support - is pretty enough for that.
Paying 1-2 nuggets for every 1 prevented cavein - pretty enough.
But now - we cant even prospect with thin tunnels in caves, and mining giving almost same amount as we spend on supports.
Give a fix for that, this is stupid.
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