Cairn Abuse

[Headchef]

Agree to this, palisade and pclaim have no place in realm cairn defense!

Enlighten me, how would you nullify the effect of walls and claims in this regard without it impacting how they are used in general defense?

Hard to completely nullify. For time being, do not let pclaims protect cairns. Cannot be claimed over just like natural resource.

Village should be required to make it less spammable than it now is.

[Kaios]

Here’s my response:

Definitely no to this idea.

Your little larper entitlement is acting up man.

Where do you get the idea you can get any say in that while being irrelevant yourself in the perspective of kingdoms?

If you have a problem with who covers you, contact your friends to liberate you from another kingdom or start your own and expand towards your base.

[Ants]

1 or 2 guys can out-manpower a large village because monitoring cairns is so boring that few people want to do it.

Your constant bitching for changes that make everything so much more difficult for everyone is becoming pretty obnoxious. Cairns did not need any less of a strength requirement to be bashed it was already low as it is and misleading the devs that you’re a small village being picked on when really AD fighters will show up when we attempt cairn removal ourselves is just sad.

I didn't ask for a lower strength requirement. I simply pointed out that the cairn system is broken. Take a look at this:

The flags are cairns. That's 8 cairns right outside the village that serve no purpose other than harassment. Some were already destroyed when this map was made so there must have been 9 or 10 of them at first. There's also double and triple palisaded cairns around which I think is pretty bullshit, no matter who has the keys the palisades. There's personal claims that are being used to block other claims so you wind up with cairns surrounded by tons of palis and 5+ claims.

I think you should stop treating this issue as if it were personal and try to brainstorm ideas to make cairn work more fun.

[Kaios]

Huh?? Not personal but you are literally asking for walls and pclaims to be ineffective to suit your personal needs.

[wonder-ass]

lower str requirement for destroying cairns was a retarded update. haHA more alt spam ! oh you want to stop them from bashing your cairns have fun killing 10 str alts with 0 lp total and get outlawed fun times.

[Ants]

Huh?? Not personal but you are literally asking for walls and pclaims to be ineffective to suit your personal needs.

I'm pretty sure this system sucks for everyone, not just me. I've been building plenty of walls and pclaims because right now, it's a legitimate tactic.
You're free to disagree. If you make good arguments the devs might take your side.

lower str requirement for destroying cairns was a retarded update. haHA more alt spam ! oh you want to stop them from bashing your cairns have fun killing 10 str alts with 0 lp total and get outlawed fun times.

Don't you need vandalism to smash cairns...?

[stya]

Except that if you check the cairn map on another random place, you will see that the cairn pattern is pretty much the same. If we wanted to abuse cairns, you would have had 30+ cairns around your village.

And those double/triple palis you guys built them yourself, just yesterday we removed 4 claims and 3 palis you built.

"Harassment", that's just claiming land, the sole pupose of the cairns and realms? Sounds like you people take it very personal?

[Ants]

Except that if you check the cairn map on another random place, you will see that the cairn pattern is pretty much the same. If we wanted to abuse cairns, you would have had 30+ cairns around your village.

And those double/triple palis you guys built them yourself, just yesterday we removed 4 claims and 3 palis you built.

"Harassment", that's just claiming land, the sole pupose of the cairns and realms? Sounds like you people take it very personal?

The cairns aren't as dense in other locations, I checked.

Second palis are sometimes built to counter the first palis so people can place a wrecking ball without having to park a warrior nearby for 24 hours. And I repeat: it doesn't matter who built the palis. I still think it's a shitty tactic.

[boshaw]

Don't you need vandalism to smash cairns...?

Making vandal alts is pretty effortless for a faction.

[Ants]

Don't you need vandalism to smash cairns...?

Making vandal alts is pretty effortless for a faction.

This is true.

The lower strength requirement might have been a bad move on the part of the devs, then.