Satiations, global pools, hunger and how it's affected trade

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Postby LaserSaysPew » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:39 am

nosfirebird wrote:
wonder-ass wrote:take the fucking rng out of satiations instead of saying 10% chance of satiating make it you can eat 10 before satiating, or just remove it cuz nobody likes the system.


drinks have been buffed people could grind quality of drink and then sell them i have no issues with satiation i have issues with food i cant get enough =( learn to eat correctly and experiment with various foods.

tho hunger does blow and should not go below 100%


Actually, grinding drinks' q is meaningless, while q40 beer removes fish satiation twice as fast as q10 beer, it also satiates itself twice as fast. Or so it was, not sure if that was changed.
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Re: Satiations, global pools, hunger and how it's affected t

Postby shubla » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:41 am

Add hawks that fly around attacking people, bringing doom to foraging bots.
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Re: Satiations, global pools, hunger and how it's affected t

Postby nosfirebird » Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:03 am

shubla wrote:Add hawks that fly around attacking people, bringing doom to foraging bots.

they added midges and ppl hate them they also have eagles that will rip bots hearts out anyway foraging bots arnt really used anymore
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Re: Satiations, global pools, hunger and how it's affected t

Postby czaper2 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:04 am

Remember those days when you could Skype Ender and be like: I got 2 bears and an LC full of blueberries, chantrelles, boletes and bone glue, sell me that oven.

And 10 minutes later, you had a new oven.

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Re: Satiations, global pools, hunger and how it's affected t

Postby bmjclark » Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:33 am

nosfirebird wrote:
shubla wrote:Add hawks that fly around attacking people, bringing doom to foraging bots.

they added midges and ppl hate them they also have eagles that will rip bots hearts out anyway foraging bots arnt really used anymore


Foraging bots aren't used because there's nothing worth foraging
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Re: Satiations, global pools, hunger and how it's affected t

Postby wonder-ass » Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:11 am

nosfirebird wrote:
wonder-ass wrote:take the fucking rng out of satiations instead of saying 10% chance of satiating make it you can eat 10 before satiating, or just remove it cuz nobody likes the system.


drinks have been buffed people could grind quality of drink and then sell them i have no issues with satiation i have issues with food i cant get enough =( learn to eat correctly and experiment with various foods.

tho hunger does blow and should not go below 100%


drinks dont change shit if you get unlucky rolls on the food you are eating youll be forced to drink more until it goes bellow 40% at that point its not even worth drinking anymore. if you cant get enough food you're doing something wrong because most people are swimming in food just gotta wait 1 hour everytime you get shit luck. old w10 system had flaws sure but it was mass large amount of food eat all at once now its mass 1 cup of food per day eat every other hour repeat.
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Re: Satiations, global pools, hunger and how it's affected t

Postby Astarisk » Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:33 am

dageir wrote:At least the quests in their current form should be removed to increase the demand for curiosities.

If you think most of the LP comes from questing you are mistaken. Most LP still comes from curios and icicles for those who choose to farm and wall them all off.
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Re: Satiations, global pools, hunger and how it's affected t

Postby nosfirebird » Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:50 am

Astarisk wrote:
dageir wrote:At least the quests in their current form should be removed to increase the demand for curiosities.

If you think most of the LP comes from questing you are mistaken. Most LP still comes from curios and icicles for those who choose to farm and wall them all off.



uhhh no most come from quests there are ppl that have 600 surv due to quests that give 250k+ lp
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Re: Satiations, global pools, hunger and how it's affected t

Postby nosfirebird » Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:53 am

wonder-ass wrote:
nosfirebird wrote:
wonder-ass wrote:take the fucking rng out of satiations instead of saying 10% chance of satiating make it you can eat 10 before satiating, or just remove it cuz nobody likes the system.


drinks have been buffed people could grind quality of drink and then sell them i have no issues with satiation i have issues with food i cant get enough =( learn to eat correctly and experiment with various foods.

tho hunger does blow and should not go below 100%


drinks dont change shit if you get unlucky rolls on the food you are eating youll be forced to drink more until it goes bellow 40% at that point its not even worth drinking anymore. if you cant get enough food you're doing something wrong because most people are swimming in food just gotta wait 1 hour everytime you get shit luck. old w10 system had flaws sure but it was mass large amount of food eat all at once now its mass 1 cup of food per day eat every other hour repeat.


we have a large infrastructure for food production. hunger is the largest pain satiations are easy


also drinks at high q dont increase the sat
and they need to reduce the same amount instead of 2/1/.5 like the old system 2% at base for all 3 categories
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Re: Satiations, global pools, hunger and how it's affected t

Postby Astarisk » Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:12 am

nosfirebird wrote:
Astarisk wrote:
dageir wrote:At least the quests in their current form should be removed to increase the demand for curiosities.

If you think most of the LP comes from questing you are mistaken. Most LP still comes from curios and icicles for those who choose to farm and wall them all off.



uhhh no most come from quests there are ppl that have 600 surv due to quests that give 250k+ lp

600 Survival -- espicially with gilds -- is not hard to achieve. Sure some quests give a big lp reward, but they are so few and far between that its not reliable and doesn't happen often. Currently the people who I know with the highest stats achieve a lot of their lp either through studying curios (20k lp an hour before buffs) or through icicle spamming (almost 800k lp per icicle if I recall correctly). Questing for LP isnt as nice as it used to be.
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