Reduce the Noise - A Request to Revive an 'Inner Party'

[MooCow]

You act like only PROs would be allowed to inner cycle which is false. Different group representants would give different idea and devs would have different opinions about one thing. There's a reason why not a group of friends but a gathering of different people would be a part of cycle imho.

You are right, if there was a way to put people into this elite inner circle from all types that enjoy the game, that would be a good thing. How would you accomplish the feat?
I have been playing since W3. I play casually and intermittently, with RL friends. Should I, specifically, be a of this group? I would like to think so, but so would everyone else.

[borka]

If i may recall: "The Inner Circle" forums was closed by jorb and loftar because it wasn't going on much at last so there wasn't need for it anymore in their opinion ...

[bmjclark]

Just popping in to say that from what i've read of the old inner parties posts (thanks naowhut), it was every bit as hyperbolic and full of blatantly wrong information as the current forums are.

[Hasta]

The "representative voting/lobbying system" doesn't work. Get over it.

[LostJustice]

You act like only PROs would be allowed to inner cycle which is false. Different group representants would give different idea and devs would have different opinions about one thing. There's a reason why not a group of friends but a gathering of different people would be a part of cycle imho.

You are right, if there was a way to put people into this elite inner circle from all types that enjoy the game, that would be a good thing. How would you accomplish the feat?
I have been playing since W3. I play casually and intermittently, with RL friends. Should I, specifically, be a of this group? I would like to think so, but so would everyone else.

I disagree with your point in grinders and pros don't want things to slow them down. The thing you miss is that people compete. The is always someone else doing something similar to what I am and may be higher at any given time, hence motivation. Even in the past, people have suggested nerfs to methods to make it difficult or slow down stuff like metal progression even. However, it is irritating when you grind, then a nerf or patch comes in mid world affecting a major system which people could have abused or completely destroys the progress you have worked for. These changes (unless a major bug) should be saved for world resets. And the thing with the recent changes, that wasn't the problem. It was a system people used to pass time or reduce the broken system of hunger. The real issue people complain about is stat difference. You know where this mainly comes from? Probably not because you don't play enough to know. These big stat games come from things like monopolies on Icicles. People pop an icicle and instant 2mill+ lp. You control a mountain and you are looking at several millions of LP 1 day no problem. Nice mechanic right?

[MooCow]

I disagree with your point in grinders and pros don't want things to slow them down. The thing you miss is that people compete. The is always someone else doing something similar to what I am and may be higher at any given time, hence motivation. Even in the past, people have suggested nerfs to methods to make it difficult or slow down stuff like metal progression even. However, it is irritating when you grind, then a nerf or patch comes in mid world affecting a major system which people could have abused or completely destroys the progress you have worked for. These changes (unless a major bug) should be saved for world resets. And the thing with the recent changes, that wasn't the problem. It was a system people used to pass time or reduce the broken system of hunger. The real issue people complain about is stat difference. You know where this mainly comes from? Probably not because you don't play enough to know. These big stat games come from things like monopolies on Icicles. People pop an icicle and instant 2mill+ lp. You control a mountain and you are looking at several millions of LP 1 day no problem. Nice mechanic right?

I realize that i misspoke to some extent. When I said they don't want things slowing them down, what I meant was that they don't want things that reduces their competitive edge in contrast to other players that are not competitive. For instance, if in W12 everyone's lp increased by 10M points per day, competitive players would be very understandably upset despite them still progressing 'faster'. They specifically want to be judged solely on their skill and effort as players. Of course, this is a pretty big generalization, but I have seen it in many different games.

[borka]

Can we stay on topic "Revieve an Inner Circle" please?

(in short: remove the noise) re-establish an Inner Party of sorts.

[nosfirebird]

inner party never works out in any game

[MagicManICT]

inner party never works out in any game

Not entirely true. it's gone fairly well for CCP and EVE, but then it's the players that pick the representatives, not the devs.

The fact is that the devs do have a select few they will listen to more than others. People that can effectively express ideas and opinions, put down facts and figures, and do it in a means that isn't toxic or infuriating. This is true of every game. They don't need a select group of players for a private forum. They just need a few people they can trust to point out good ideas, useful critiques, and real issues.

[sabinati]

no. inner party isn't needed.