How to fix creedo

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Re: How to fix creedo

Postby Burinn » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:57 pm

dorag wrote: i didnt have an emotianal reaction you were bringing up that i was strawmaning you

dorag wrote:But, no you'r probably right everyone who conplains about creedos must not like putting effort into things and their just playing this game b.c they want instant rewards kek


This IS a strawman argument. I am not making the argument you're pretending I'm making. That is not an insult, that is reality.


Saying you should drink less was a joke. If you took it seriously, I'm sorry you were offended by that. It was not my intention to make you upset.


Again could you point out where I insulted you, because neither of those were insults.
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Re: How to fix creedo

Postby dorag » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:58 pm

Oh please, you can have a conversation about this without making up some bullshit strawman about what I think. You're a big boy.


Hey could you stop double triple posting and maybe just edit your last post instead? Inflating your threads makes you look like a twat.[/quote]
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Re: How to fix creedo

Postby Burinn » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:00 am

The content of that post has nothing to do with your ideas? I'm sorry if you're upset that I think posting three times in a row makes it difficult for other people to follow the thread.

Again. I am sorry you're having such a personal emotional reaction to this. I guess I'll agree to disagree instead of wasting anymore of our time. Hope you calm down.
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Re: How to fix creedo

Postby dorag » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:00 am

Posts like that etc and none of the posts you make discuss the problem
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Re: How to fix creedo

Postby dorag » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:02 am

Burinn wrote:The content of that post has nothing to do with your ideas? I'm sorry if you're upset that I think posting three times in a row makes it difficult for other people to follow the thread.

Again. I am sorry you're having such a personal emotional reaction to this. I guess I'll agree to disagree instead of wasting anymore of our time. Hope you calm down.

lmao ill try and be less emotinal in the future im litearly melting down rn i dont know if ill be able to calm down anytime soon.
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Re: How to fix creedo

Postby xdragonlord18 » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:14 am

The problem isn't with credos, it's with quests. Right now quests check none of the boxes when it comes to types of fun but at the same time they are, for many people, required in order to be competitive. On top of that the reward is often not even remotely worth the cost. They're everything bad about loot boxes except you work for them in game instead of out of game. I think that credo quests difficulty needs to follow logically. I shouldn't be asked to get a glimmermoss on my first forager quest and then follow that by needing to eat a chanterelle. I think quest rewards, in general, should be proportional and sensible. I shouldn't get +1 to orcas in the middle of the mountains after having walked to a quest giver 10 minutes away, waving and then walking 10 minutes back.
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Re: How to fix creedo

Postby dorag » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:20 am

xdragonlord18 wrote:The problem isn't with credos, it's with quests. Right now quests check none of the boxes when it comes to types of fun but at the same time they are, for many people, required in order to be competitive. On top of that the reward is often not even remotely worth the cost. They're everything bad about loot boxes except you work for them in game instead of out of game. I think that credo quests difficulty needs to follow logically. I shouldn't be asked to get a glimmermoss on my first forager quest and then follow that by needing to eat a chanterelle. I think quest rewards, in general, should be proportional and sensible. I shouldn't get +1 to orcas in the middle of the mountains after having walked to a quest giver 10 minutes away, waving and then walking 10 minutes back.

ye id agree with that but i think they should be removed until their implemented in a way thats like you know fun or enjoyable..........
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Re: How to fix creedo

Postby xdragonlord18 » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:30 am

dorag wrote:
xdragonlord18 wrote:The problem isn't with credos, it's with quests. Right now quests check none of the boxes when it comes to types of fun but at the same time they are, for many people, required in order to be competitive. On top of that the reward is often not even remotely worth the cost. They're everything bad about loot boxes except you work for them in game instead of out of game. I think that credo quests difficulty needs to follow logically. I shouldn't be asked to get a glimmermoss on my first forager quest and then follow that by needing to eat a chanterelle. I think quest rewards, in general, should be proportional and sensible. I shouldn't get +1 to orcas in the middle of the mountains after having walked to a quest giver 10 minutes away, waving and then walking 10 minutes back.

ye id agree with that but i think they should be removed until their implemented in a way thats like you know fun or enjoyable..........


It's too late now. People have already invested a lot of time in the system. Removing it now would do more harm than good.
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Re: How to fix creedo

Postby dorag » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:35 am

xdragonlord18 wrote:
dorag wrote:
xdragonlord18 wrote:The problem isn't with credos, it's with quests. Right now quests check none of the boxes when it comes to types of fun but at the same time they are, for many people, required in order to be competitive. On top of that the reward is often not even remotely worth the cost. They're everything bad about loot boxes except you work for them in game instead of out of game. I think that credo quests difficulty needs to follow logically. I shouldn't be asked to get a glimmermoss on my first forager quest and then follow that by needing to eat a chanterelle. I think quest rewards, in general, should be proportional and sensible. I shouldn't get +1 to orcas in the middle of the mountains after having walked to a quest giver 10 minutes away, waving and then walking 10 minutes back.

ye id agree with that but i think they should be removed until their implemented in a way thats like you know fun or enjoyable..........


It's too late now. People have already invested a lot of time in the system. Removing it now would do more harm than good.

Ye but for next world.
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Re: How to fix creedo

Postby Burinn » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:37 am

dorag wrote:Ye but for next world.


You and your 30 man village should have complained about it sooner!
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