2 Months Into The World and How Many Successful sieges?

[Vigilance]

but the reality is if it takes more than an hour I aint doing it.

holy actual fuck what hahahaha

god damn i'd love to see the day we could obliterate months upon months or potentially a year of progress with an hour of time that'd be so fucking goofy, that playercount would drop like nobody's business, or maybe it'd stay higher concurrent because we'd all need fucking ram checking alts patrolling 24/7

[OIchi]

We have started a siege and successfully finished it. It took a lot of effort but its definitively not impossible.

I don't think it should be any easier.

[ZenoWyvern]

yeah, that 1 time when it was possible to have a successful siege during the whole duration of the world... is this the point you're making or what

Make an actual point rather than claiming "siege is impossible" and leaving it at that

[jordancoles]

We have sieged this world using a ram and catapults

It wasn't fun or anything, but it's doable

[Barbamaus]

We have started a siege and successfully finished it. It took a lot of effort but its definitively not impossible.

I don't think it should be any easier.

THIS.
Siege is supposed to be something that require effort. If it didn't, it would be unfair to defenders.
Making it somewhat difficult was a great way to avoid noobies getting sieged "just for fun", as they used to a while back. You only siege what you think it might be worth your time and effort.

[wonder-ass]

We have sieged this world using a ram and catapults

It wasn't fun or anything, but it's doable

sieging shouldnt be fun anyways. dont make sieging easier make going outside more worth it, meteor/realm tries to fix this but fails hard at it.

[MightySheep]

but the reality is if it takes more than an hour I aint doing it.

holy actual fuck what hahahaha

god damn i'd love to see the day we could obliterate months upon months or potentially a year of progress with an hour of time that'd be so fucking goofy, that playercount would drop like nobody's business, or maybe it'd stay higher concurrent because we'd all need fucking ram checking alts patrolling 24/7

yeah yeah everyone should be unraidable, its not like this discussion hasnt been had a million times already

as the thread title says, there were ZERO sieges last world and ZERO sieges this world because of all the loser hermits with no friends so they sit on forum all day shitting on any thread about siege or pvp because they think people give a shit to raid them when actually no one does

people saying they have pulled off sieges are full of shit or they bashed a wall to an inactive village

also I dont know what you mean "id love to see it" you were there on world 5 when it was easy as pie to raid people, you already saw it when the raiding situation was x10 worse than anything on this forum has suggested and guess what the game didnt die, in fact it was a lot more fun than it is now

I'm not even advocating for siege, I just cant help but laugh at the weird fucking pretending people here do because they are so desperate to shut down any discussion about siege so they start inventing stuff like "SIEGE IS TOTALLY POSSIBLE, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE TRIED" "I SIEGED 5 VILLAGES ALREADY, I JUST DIDNT FEEL LIKE POSTING ABOUT IT" like calm down. No one is going to add siege, your precious little shanty hermitages isnt getting raided, you dont need to start making stuff up

The reality is siege isnt possible and will never be possible because of the playerbase has morphed into farmville moms who band together in mass protest whenever they sense a threat to their crops

[boshaw]

but the reality is if it takes more than an hour I aint doing it.

holy actual fuck what hahahaha

god damn i'd love to see the day we could obliterate months upon months or potentially a year of progress with an hour of time that'd be so fucking goofy, that playercount would drop like nobody's business, or maybe it'd stay higher concurrent because we'd all need fucking ram checking alts patrolling 24/7

yeah yeah everyone should be unraidable, its not like this discussion hasnt been had a million times already

as the thread title says, there were ZERO sieges last world and ZERO sieges this world because of all the loser hermits with no friends so they sit on forum all day shitting on any thread about siege or pvp because they think people give a shit to raid them when actually no one does

people saying they have pulled off sieges are full of shit or they bashed a wall to an inactive village

also I dont know what you mean "id love to see it" you were there on world 5 when it was easy as pie to raid people, you already saw it when the raiding situation was x10 worse than anything on this forum has suggested and guess what the game didnt die, in fact it was a lot more fun than it is now

I'm not even advocating for siege, I just cant help but laugh at the weird fucking pretending people here do because they are so desperate to shut down any discussion about siege so they start inventing stuff like "SIEGE IS TOTALLY POSSIBLE, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE TRIED" "I SIEGED 5 VILLAGES ALREADY, I JUST DIDNT FEEL LIKE POSTING ABOUT IT" like calm down. No one is going to add siege, your precious little shanty hermitages isnt getting raided, you dont need to start making stuff up

The reality is siege isnt possible and will never be possible because of the playerbase has morphed into farmville moms who band together in mass protest whenever they sense a threat to their crops

Why should people post about everything they do? Not everyone lives off attention, and posting usually just attracts nolifers who are bored of running in circles. Not to mention I don't think anyone here is claiming they are sieging left and right. It was really only viable for a short period of time or if catch a new village pop up within the first two weeks, and even then the loot is probably shit unless you catch people who were moving and that's assuming they don't notice and vault everything.

Also walljumping was and is only fun if you were the one doing it, having to signpost your vault or plot was not and losing anything of value from walljumps most certainly was not. There's plenty of threads in the archive showing the salt it produced. Not to mention people now pay real money to play this game and i'm sure a lot pay for tokens to trade. There is now an ever higher cost of what ruining someones village has and to think they will just shrug it off is laughable.

[MightySheep]

Also walljumping was and is only fun if you were the one doing it, having to signpost your vault or plot was not and losing anything of value from walljumps most certainly was not. There's plenty of threads in the archive showing the salt it produced. Not to mention people now pay real money to play this game and i'm sure a lot pay for tokens to trade. There is now an ever higher cost of what ruining someones village has and to think they will just shrug it off is laughable.

Have you even played any other sandbox games? Honestly the way some ppl talk in here its like youve never played another sandbox game. There are so many games similar to haven with full loot raiding, including ones where accounts and possessions have high real money value. Wurm, LiF, Last Oasis, Ark, Atlas, Conan Exiles, Empyrion, etc. How is that even a counter argument to raiding? That literally just makes it more fun. Some of the most fun moments in Wurm were finding scale/drake sets worth hundreds in a village while raiding. Wearing that gear in PvP knowing you risk a ton of money was exciting too.

Not sure how "its only fun for the winners, not fun for the losers" is a good argument either. Thats true for pretty much anything with winners and losers.

[Potjeh]

There's just too much time investment in infrastructure to have sieges be actually possible. If you want to have reasonably easy sieges, quality progression needs to be completely removed.