Realms are hot poopy garbage.

[SnuggleSnail]

I think you guys are looking at this from the wrong perspective. What GOOD thing have realms ever done to justify existing? You don't need to change a bad thing to be less bad, but still bad. You can just yeet it. General chat doesn't need to be tied to realms. Just remove realms

[Liss12]

I think you guys are looking at this from the wrong perspective. What GOOD thing have realms ever done to justify existing? You don't need to change a bad thing to be less bad, but still bad. You can just yeet it. General chat doesn't need to be tied to realms. Just remove realms

I assume main idea behind realm was to make spruce villages profitable enough for tryhards so they wouldn't grief them for shit and giggles.

[SnuggleSnail]

Never in my life have I said to myself "oh, this guy is in my realm so I won't fuck him up." I've killed plenty of plebs for living in other realms whenever they've started to have authority issues, tho. If I see a questing network inside an enemy realm everybody in that area is getting fucked with. The only real impact realms really ever had on griefing is intentionally denying people buffs and chain banning people from chat for fun xddd

[strpk0]

realms bad

[sMartins]

Nah, Realms are not that bad, at least the idea behind them.

It's to incentivize living toghethere and so having more interactions.
For sure they could be improved and expanded.

Lets start with:

viewtopic.php?f=48&t=72238

[SnuggleSnail]

This surely doesn't result in me faking a siege on my village every week, killing everybody who turns up to help, then banning everybody in chat who talks about it

It's kinda retarded you think anything that relies on there being no bad actors will work. Are you new to the internet or something?

[sMartins]

That's exactly the point, and no I'm not new to the world (you know It came before of the internet) ... And probably even older than you, pay respect

It's a sandbox, devs should grant the tools then everyone can use them at their will.
What you exposed Is Indeed interactions, fun and part of the game .... What we should AIM for, tho you'll earn a bad reputation that way and I doubt people Will show up a second time in the same place.

Also that Is Just a raw idea and I Guess It could be implemented Better than that, instead of loosing time shitposting and crying here and there on the forum (talking to everyone, not Just you) use your mind to think how to improve the game, and not only to your advantage, but for the game itself.

[pawnchito]

Nah, Realms are not that bad, at least the idea behind them.

It's to incentivize living toghethere and so having more interactions.
For sure they could be improved and expanded.

Lets start with:

viewtopic.php?f=48&t=72238

Not sure how it promotes living together. You can make a realm on a fresh brand new claim that isnt even a village. A single player has and does sometimes make their own realm to grief through. The buffs are undeniably game breaking though, even when people know they arent going to be top tier or the best of the best there is a psychological toll to missing them. I know ive had teammembers lose interest because they know the neighboor down the road gets a sweet buff to study just by being in a different spot.

I think the concept could make sense but realms should be like a progression from a highly developed village. I shouldnt be able to plop down a coronation stone in the middle of a backwoods claim just because I have mats. Villages should turn into realms as they progress and become stronk. If villages slowly built up their own buffs and stuff we would all have WAY more incentive to kill eachother and take away their advantages and we would all be motivated to keep logging in diligently past the 3 month mark.

Realms are fucking garbage atm for the plebs (me) and the non plebs (snail and the crew).

Side note, people will talk about how this would lead to siege and siege is bad. So far my interactions with siege have been limited but nothing I have experienced leads me to believe that he sieger is auto winning. Lack of knowledge of siege and a bit of apathy are usually way more of a game changer than "err siege unfairz".

[sMartins]

I think the concept could make sense but realms should be like a progression from a highly developed village. I shouldnt be able to plop down a coronation stone in the middle of a backwoods claim just because I have mats. Villages should turn into realms as they progress and become stronk. If villages slowly built up their own buffs and stuff we would all have WAY more incentive to kill eachother and take away their advantages and we would all be motivated to keep logging in diligently past the 3 month mark.

Ok, now the hard part Is to translate that into actual code.

How do you define/rationalize "stronk" and "progress" with numbers and math?
Are you suggesting that instead of building shit, realm buffs should be bounded to mere stats?
Are you sure that Is a good idea?

Think and keep thinking, untill we come up with a Better solution than the One of the devs, it's too Easy to complain about.

[SnuggleSnail]

If you just means village based buffs I don't rly think I'd enjoy it personally, but have no strong opinions either way.
If you mean a regular realm emanating from villages on some weird set of conditions I think that's nearly as bad as the current iteration of realms. Even if you remove all potential for maliciously making or expanding realms getting fucked because the people covering you quit, or just not being nearby a good realm would suck just as bad.

The only clear solutions I see are either:
1) Remove realms
2) Remove realm buffs
3) Make controlling buffs & realm expansion not something individual players or groups of players can do in a way that affects everybody/others
4) Make it so everybody can reasonably have their own maxed realm (effectively village buffs)


I personally don't think realms provide anything good enough to justify 3) or 4), it's a waste of dev time to make something bad less bad when it could just be removed... But Jorbtar isn't going to remove realms, so prolly the best thing to suggest around