Make whales and orcas more common

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Re: Make whales and orcas more common

Postby Halbertz » Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:43 am

MadNomad wrote:
mulamishne wrote:There isn't a high tier player who thinks manually whaling is fun (maybe Trollex) and if you increase spawns people who farm them are just gonna get more and create a larger


I think we could also significantly lower their HP, they would still have a lot remaining in this case!

It would also be nicer if they spawned closer to coasts

What the matter? You just bug them on shore and press buttons in for several minutes. They could have one million hp - time that you waste on killing them not comparable to time you spend looking for them.
How many whales have you actually killed? If you aren't trolling with this topic, I guess you have seen whale only on wiki page.
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Re: Make whales and orcas more common

Postby MadNomad » Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:46 am

Halbertz wrote:They could have one million hp - time that you waste on killing them


I thought I just agreed on this one didn't I?

Halbertz wrote:I guess you have seen whale only on wiki page.


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Re: Make whales and orcas more common

Postby DonVelD » Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:25 pm

do you dip your balls in ketchup or marinara for the extra flavor?
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Re: Make whales and orcas more common

Postby WowGain » Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:27 pm

MadNomad wrote:
Halbertz wrote:They could have one million hp - time that you waste on killing them


I thought I just agreed on this one didn't I?

Halbertz wrote:I guess you have seen whale only on wiki page.


Whale


I know being a yuropoor from whatever backwater country means that English isn't exactly your strong suit, but what he's saying is that their hp total doesn't matter. Whale fights will always be a mindless endeavor of just dragging it to a nearby shore and punching it to death while it's incapable of reacting, because they were designed and added without any thought to making them a fun experience to hunt.
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Re: Make whales and orcas more common

Postby MadNomad » Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:52 pm

WowGain wrote:Whale fights will always be a mindless endeavor of just dragging it to a nearby shore and punching it to death while it's incapable of reacting, because they were designed and added without any thought to making them a fun experience to hunt.


no shit sherlock... as if it wasn't said previously

because of this very reason they could have their HP lowered
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Re: Make whales and orcas more common

Postby DonVelD » Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:54 pm

so you dont like ketchup AND marinara, alright, but maybe you're mayo kind of guy?
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Re: Make whales and orcas more common

Postby mulamishne » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:50 pm

MadNomad wrote:I think we could also significantly lower their HP, they would still have a lot remaining in this case!

If we're removing some HP from whales, why stop there? Lets remove ALL the HP, remove all the resources it gives and finish up by just removing whales entirely.

Glad we're on the same page on this one :)
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Re: Make whales and orcas more common

Postby MadNomad » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:52 pm

mulamishne wrote:
MadNomad wrote:I think we could also significantly lower their HP, they would still have a lot remaining in this case!

If we're removing some HP from whales, why stop there? Lets remove ALL the HP, remove all the resources it gives and finish up by just removing whales entirely.

Glad we're on the same page on this one :)


perhaps we do not want to get too ridiculous about this, but I think like 10K for orcas and 15K for whales would be just fine

feel free to suggest other values
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Re: Make whales and orcas more common

Postby ctopolon4 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:35 pm

how about just increase their spawn and add all animal AI a ranged attack and run away script (or rage mode with regen)?
or hunting them like bees with timed traps
P.S. bleeding animals are killing himself by running for you is ridiculous
why they have 100% hp if 1 naked alt can abuse bleeding bear by jumping over cliff (useless 30% hp)? and 2 naked alts can abuse bleeding cachalot at shallow water
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Re: Make whales and orcas more common

Postby Halbertz » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:42 pm

ctopolon4 wrote:add all animal AI a ranged attack

There always will be room for cheessing. Mammoth already has range attack. I'm not sure that mammoth fight more interesting than any other.
ctopolon4 wrote:run away script

Same. You could always block it with something.
ctopolon4 wrote:rage mode with regen

That's better. Someone suggests to replace troll's "cave in" attack with regen and I absolutely agree with this. Regen for whales? Idk, man. Whole fight is stupid, where you SHOULD drag it to shore and bug somehow, or big chongus will destroy ship under you in seconds.
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