Change sleds/skiis and 4th speed in winter

[Dawidio123]

Although arguably winter is a nice excuse to not log in for a week.

IDK how anybody can interpret that as a compliment to winter instead of an insult to the game.

I mean it as an insult.

[Audiosmurf]

I personally like winter a lot, think it's pure sovl, but have always liked the idea of rolling seasonal zones so it's not winter everywhere all at once.

[Nightdawg]

I started hating winter when some credo fucking asked me to put an arrow in a bear, after they "fixed credos to not longer give out-of-season quests" for the 5th time

But yeah sleds and skis are also annoying af, just like horses used to be annoying in pvp

[vatas]

Spend 100 lowQ coal to make a "Yule-father's Unruly Cinder" you can drop on the ground to melt snow as an alternative to making it a magic?*

Instant effect would enable not-so-fun meta where one player in a fleeing group becomes sacrificial lamb by dropping behind and using the item, so it should gradually radiate "no snow allowed" outwards to something like 20-30 tiles.

This would mean you could drop 10 of those around a meteor, for example, to create a "no-sled-or-skis-zone."

*Doesn't have to be named exactly like that.

[ChildhoodObesity]

I like winter almost exclusively as a larpy reskin. The actual factors impacting gameplay are quite bad and the decline in player count every winter makes complete sense.

[VDZ]

Spend 100 lowQ coal to make a "Yule-father's Unruly Cinder" you can drop on the ground to melt snow as an alternative to making it a magic?*

Instant effect would enable not-so-fun meta where one player in a fleeing group becomes sacrificial lamb by dropping behind and using the item, so it should gradually radiate "no snow allowed" outwards to something like 20-30 tiles.

This would mean you could drop 10 of those around a meteor, for example, to create a "no-sled-or-skis-zone."

*Doesn't have to be named exactly like that.

In other words, sprucecaps who don't think of bringing this item (or just don't produce enough coal to repeatedly make it) which exists only for this meta purpose should just get utterly fucked during winter, unable to escape speed 3/4 griefers?

[vatas]

Spend 100 lowQ coal to make a "Yule-father's Unruly Cinder" you can drop on the ground to melt snow as an alternative to making it a magic?*

Instant effect would enable not-so-fun meta where one player in a fleeing group becomes sacrificial lamb by dropping behind and using the item, so it should gradually radiate "no snow allowed" outwards to something like 20-30 tiles.

This would mean you could drop 10 of those around a meteor, for example, to create a "no-sled-or-skis-zone."

*Doesn't have to be named exactly like that.

In other words, sprucecaps who don't think of bringing this item (or just don't produce enough coal to repeatedly make it) which exists only for this meta purpose should just get utterly fucked during winter, unable to escape speed 3/4 griefers?

Eh? I don't see the problem. Other than maybe:
>Sprucecap on a kicksled
>Sees unknown players
>Flees away from them
>One of the unknown players rushes forward on ski 4 speed
>drops item in front of the Sprucecap
>"It's not fun to be murdered by tryhards" -thread number 9001

However:
*I specified that item's effect would be gradual, so presumably you could still dodge it
*4th speed ski person could just regularly KO the Sprucecap on a kicksled?

To be constructive would, maybe these changes instead (that hopefully are more intuitive and have a bit less "band-aid" -energy?)
*Skis and Kicksleds now have a turning speed instead of being able to freely rotate instantly
*Skis and Kicksleds build up their speed gradually
*Meteors cause snow to melt within 100 tile radius as they cool down

[r0ck4ev3r]

... add hearth magic to freeze them similarly to raw hide...

No way someone would do this to you on a lake and light a fire next to you.

..."Yule-father's Unruly Cinder" you can drop on the ground to melt snow...

Too cheesable on a lake.

The hearth magic should be something more like: muddied path- drops the movement of anyone in an area who is riding a sled or using skiis to speed 1.

[VDZ]

Eh? I don't see the problem.

The problem is that it doesn't solve the problem for sprucecaps, only for advanced players. Right now, griefers can go out to hunt sprucecaps, but at the risk of getting into a nasty PvP battle with a non-sprucecap themselves. If you add an item that allows non-sprucecaps to escape but not sprucecaps, griefers are safe outside during winter while sprucecaps get fucked just as hard as they currently are (except more often now because there's no risk in it anymore for griefers).

... add hearth magic to freeze them similarly to raw hide...

No way someone would do this to you on a lake and light a fire next to you.

..."Yule-father's Unruly Cinder" you can drop on the ground to melt snow...

Too cheesable on a lake.

The hearth magic should be something more like: muddied path- drops the movement of anyone in an area who is riding a sled or using skiis to speed 1.

You're suggesting the hearth magic works on ice as well as snow (something nobody suggested), then criticizing the ideas because of the 'works on ice' part. How about just letting it only affect snow, not ice?

[r0ck4ev3r]

...You're suggesting the hearth magic works on ice as well as snow (something nobody suggested), then criticizing the ideas because of the 'works on ice' part. How about just letting it only affect snow, not ice?

If we had a magical melt mechanic why not work like any other heat source and melt in an area (snow and/or ice)

Some freeze mechanic~ a rawhide for sleds/skis would imply its usable on ice, because players can use a sled or skii on ice.

By all means ignore ice, leave us with the same issue of sleds on ice chasing ppl down at mach-spruce-speed.