Let's talk about removal of mov speed bonus from critters

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Re: Let's talk about removal of mov speed bonus from critter

Postby Clemins » Tue Jan 02, 2024 6:34 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:imagine that, coordinated ganks are deadly now that brodgarbois screeched until kritterspeed got removed lmao


I've changed my mind, I like this change now lmao
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Re: Let's talk about removal of mov speed bonus from critter

Postby Ardennesss » Tue Jan 02, 2024 6:42 pm

noindyfikator wrote:waaaa i want kritters back even tho i asked for them to be removed
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Re: Let's talk about removal of mov speed bonus from critter

Postby azrid » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:48 pm

its nice to see all the naysayers support this change now
devs did something good finally?
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Re: Let's talk about removal of mov speed bonus from critter

Postby DonVelD » Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:20 pm

you might've not noticed but we're "supporting" this just because its even less forgiving and made noinek fucking die lmao
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Re: Thread Summary

Postby Barbamaus » Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:10 pm

hafenplayerbigidea wrote:Noinek and the other brodgar bums: retarded in a funny, “shot yourself in the foot” sort of way

Barbamaus: retarded in a troubling, “do you even play this game?” sort of way


How ironic it is to read your comment and your signature :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Let's talk about removal of mov speed bonus from critter

Postby Sevenless » Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:35 pm

moot stuff aside: kritterspeed boost from forager yes, keep rabbit slippers as bunny slowdown.

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Re: Let's talk about removal of mov speed bonus from critter

Postby MightySheep » Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:06 pm

vatas wrote:further adding to the already high skill floor for PvP.

Did you really just say that? I just skimmed through this thread couldnt be bothered to read the op or annything past page 1 but my god this is why this forums is absolutely worthless source of infromation

You could not find a game like this with a lower skill floor to pvp than haven. Ppl I introduced to this game are able to pvp with a 2 minute instruction on how to pvp. Are you really that dumb or is your head just buried that deep in the sand? Which part exactly about haven pvp is high skill? I'm genuinely curious what you consider high skilled about it compared to other similar games like albion?

This critter debate in general is just strange, being able to click critters always favored the person running away because its on the edge of your screen you see all the critters first and then you can click them and change directions etc, you always have the upper hand ... but people are acting like this change somehow favors hermits/pvers lmao :roll: Even im not confident I can run away from gankers after this change, it all depends on your luck with speed boosts now and im never lucky with those. It also just adds another equipment slot for tryhards to gain an advantage with rather than everyone running bunny slippers but thats a minor advantage I suppose.
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Re: Let's talk about removal of mov speed bonus from critter

Postby Tilten234 » Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:26 pm

To lazy to read anything in this thread cuase its to much back and forth whining no matter what side you are on, If you like it, dislike it, people agreeing just to agree and people disagreeing just to disagree. This game is just full of whiners so here comes my honest opinion as a guy thats only PvPed non stop since he picked up this game in w10. And im not talking about chasing hermits thats not PvP.... So whatever bay dudes, srry but ur out of this convo.

As a guy that pvps with factions every single world, and been on many sides knowing many different opinions and whos no big fan of speedbuffs and rabbits, Specially when speedbuffs can be randomly seen by some and not by others... And was against this critter change from the beginning, after trying it I actually think this critter thing was a good change, it doesnt force you to do credos either, which most fighters rush forager fisherman and then stop cuase you get the speedbuffs and stamina drain from swimming. You can now do which ever credo you want or not do any if you dont want, which forcing people to do something just to get an edge over others is never fun... We already have this extremly obnoxious stat grind to focus on as a fighter if you want to stay relevant

Ive both been chased and chased others since this change and the fights itself feels way more active when you can focus on the fight rather then clicking squirrels or dumb ass lady bug that just rendered in on ur screen (that goes for all clients no matter if custom clients made it easier to do). Now its either you get back to ur teammates, clip someone on a tree or pray for RNG for a speedbuff to get away. And for you in this post who doesnt know what clipping on a tree means, You shoudnt be talking about these changes at all cuase your clueless no offense. Not even gonna start how easy it is to take a naked alt and port with a rowboat to get away if you really wanted too. Anyone in your village can do it on a freshly naked alt at any time if you are to scared to show up with ur main to save ur friend. And im sure many of you can agree with me that getting away in a rowboat, dugout or what ever happends way more often then you would imagine.

I feel like speedbuffs has always been a pain in the ass, but you cannot remove both speedbuffs and critter clicking, at that point the guy chasing will always have the advantage and theres nothing you can do about it if you have worse gear and stats, Speedbuffs in the current state even tho its annoying to see someone pick up 3 in a row and then get out of aggro and port home is annoying, is in my opinion in a way better state right now then its been for many worlds. Right now its all down to luck, some will have it some will not, but the naked alt with rowboat is just 10 clicks away. So quit whining and accept that this was a good change, not perfect but better then what it was before.

And it takes alot for me to start commenting on forum threads cuase i aint no keyboard warrior, but id hate to see another update get reverted cuase of 10 dudes crying about it. Thats how world 10 combat change never happend cuase people was to impatient to realise this could be a better system it just needs a bit of tweaking, instead we scrapped it completely and we got stuck with blue/red, jugular and storm of sword metas, where nothing else can even compare, when was last time you saw someone using a move like kick in pvp? yeah good luck finding that.
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Re: Let's talk about removal of mov speed bonus from critter

Postby MightySheep » Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:39 pm

faction gankers want to get rid of critter clicking no surprise there they hate it when ppl can have the ability to run away
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Re: Let's talk about removal of mov speed bonus from critter

Postby vatas » Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:13 am

MightySheep wrote:You could not find a game like this with a lower skill floor to pvp than haven. Ppl I introduced to this game are able to pvp with a 2 minute instruction on how to pvp.


Are you willing to individually instruct every person who joins this game? If not, my argument has at least some point.
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