My List of Things To Remove From the Game

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Re: My List of Things To Remove From the Game

Postby Dawidio123 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:48 pm

DonVelD wrote:geez! sure is weird to call a spade... a spade, huh?

You sure do like the word spade.
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Re: My List of Things To Remove From the Game

Postby DonVelD » Sat Jul 20, 2024 8:54 am

Dawidio123 wrote:
DonVelD wrote:geez! sure is weird to call a spade... a spade, huh?

You sure do like the word spade.

hah, got me there. i do be a digger.
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Re: My List of Things To Remove From the Game

Postby DonVelD » Sat Jul 20, 2024 9:00 am

(i dig graves for corpses of pedophiles, you belong in the same mass grave, misa)
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Re: My List of Things To Remove From the Game

Postby srt66 » Sat Jul 20, 2024 9:19 am

Remove arms and legs.
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Re: My List of Things To Remove From the Game

Postby terechgracz » Wed Jul 24, 2024 8:28 pm

I just realised

HnH was written with adding content only,
They haven't thought about removing anything
The code is so spagetful you can't remove nothing
All you can do Is add layers and layers of inconvenience
To discordant from using things you want removed
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Re: My List of Things To Remove From the Game

Postby Dawidio123 » Wed Jul 24, 2024 8:44 pm

terechgracz wrote:I just realised

HnH was written with adding content only,
They haven't thought about removing anything
The code is so spagetful you can't remove nothing
All you can do Is add layers and layers of inconvenience
To discordant from using things you want removed

Talking about discord, you guys should join the amazing discord i got in my description. It has a nicely maintained critique and ideas channel that loftar surely reads from time to time.
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Re: My List of Things To Remove From the Game

Postby Ozzy123 » Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:41 am

Davis last time u played the game was 10 years ago mate u didnt even try out most of the things youre posting about
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Re: My List of Things To Remove From the Game

Postby vatas » Thu Jul 25, 2024 12:47 pm

About the Visitor buff in particular...

I understand that it has had probably dozen or so bypass bugs, and new ones are probably to be found. I understand there is unfortunate implications in siege PvP.

However...

Original big reason on why the Visitor was implemented wasn't to enable markets, but because large villages were infeasible under the new "zero trust" w8 key and locks system:

1) In Legacy, you couldn't take your keys outside AT ALL, they all worked like a master key (except you couldn't change the locks, but this just made many gates forever compromised unless rebuilt.)

2) w8 addressed this by dividing keys to 'Slave' and 'Master' -types.

3) Unfortunately, pre-visitor, you needed to give every villager a slave key so they can exit the village. (Legacy, had a one-way teleporting road sign that could take people outside, and they would Hearth or Village claim teleport back.)

4) While you can't use a slave key to open a gate from the outside (the most bare minimum security feature) - this still meant that every villager with a slave key is a potential "single-point-of-failure" whether though...
A) plain incompetence/laziness on closing the gate behind you.
B) being fooled by some kind of trick like this.
C) planned infiltration (example below.)

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Basic Claim Safety (And what you’re doing wrong
TL:;DR: Build a Palisade with only Visitor gates.)

Combat Guide (Overview, PVE, PVP) (Includes how to escape/minimize risk of getting killed.)
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Re: My List of Things To Remove From the Game

Postby DDDsDD999 » Thu Jul 25, 2024 4:43 pm

Just remove the game instead.
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Re: My List of Things To Remove From the Game

Postby maze » Thu Jul 25, 2024 5:20 pm

terechgracz wrote:I just realised

HnH was written with adding content only,
They haven't thought about removing anything
The code is so spagetful you can't remove nothing
All you can do Is add layers and layers of inconvenience
To discordant from using things you want removed


They removed the whole damn game 2 times! TWO TIMES!
just wait till they remove the game a 3rd time! HAFEN3 coming soon.
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